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  •  James Madison Does Not Get the Credit (2+ / 0-)
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    Eric Nelson, Mary Mike

    ... he deserves, largely, I think, due to the difficulties he encountered during the War of 1812 against the British.  Yes, not unlike many other Presidents of that period, he also owned slaves.  

    That said, I do think he is a bit under-appreciated as President.  His intellectual contributions during the founding of the country are second to none.

    Over the years, I've twice had the opportunity to visit his estate Montpelier in Orange, VA and learned a few things about him.

    •  slaves and why Mitt Romney's campaign statement.. (1+ / 0-)
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      ..corporations are people my friend" has me leery of any label that includes "ism"while I very much appreciate how vital is the study/work that both Georege Orwell and Howard Zinn have done to undo the damage that the Romneys or war-mongers of the world have done under the label/guise of "nationalism"..

      ism [ ízzəm ]  
      1.system of belief: a movement, doctrine, or system of belief
      Synonyms: doctrine, ideology, belief, belief system, creed, philosophy, movement, practice, principles
      .. it seems that those supply side "owners" of the largest private property holdings have the most control over what defines either word.
      The people or Public is circumscribed by the 1%ers and war mongers.
      These ways of thinking -- cultivated, nurtured, indoctrinated from childhood on -- have been useful to those in power, and deadly for those out of power. Howard Zinn
      Thx JekyllnHyde

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