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  •  Koch's Launch Ad Campaign Against Obamacare (23+ / 0-)

    Conservatives’ Aggressive Ad Campaign Seeks to Cast Doubt on Health Law

    Guessing there will be some death panel like distortions with these.  My company always has the group that manages our health care plans meet with employees when open enrollment comes along. This year will be especially amusing because the wingnut employees will be spewing Koch brothers propaganda from these ads.

    Saw that the zip code just had its 50th anniversary and much money was spent in advertising how to use it. Did the  birchers put out ads claiming that it would help the communists take over?

    Visitors from all other industrial countries with national health plans will have something to tell the relatives back home if they visit and see these ads. Amazing. I believe in American exceptionalism.

    •  While GOP Congressional leadership... (12+ / 0-)

      ...warned the NFL and NBA to not "risk tarnishing their images" by helping to spread info about exchanges.

      Fair and balanced.

      When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

      by Egalitare on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 04:51:39 AM PDT

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      •  The Player's Associations will prolly be the ones (4+ / 0-)
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        to make the call.....Fuck the owners.

        •  Next time ANY sports fan tells you their owners... (0+ / 0-)

          ...can't afford a player, ask them when was the last time the owners let that fan see their financial books.

          I refuse to make excuses for a team's billionaires. If they can't afford a player, they can't afford the team. After all...it's their word the sports fan is taking for what the team can and cannot afford. I never yet met a billionaire THAT honest about their profit and loss.

          "I feel a lot safer already."--Emil Sitka

          by DaddyO on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 10:13:35 AM PDT

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          •  Sports is one of the few places.... (0+ / 0-)

            ....where the bottom line is quality, NOT the next quarter's profits.

            The Pittsburgh Pirates (my team) has been profitable recently while not having a winning season since 1992.

            I don't see everyone celebrating Bob Nutting's business acumen - he's vilified for not building a winning team (I am dreading the late season swoon this year....)

            9-11 changed everything? Well, Katrina changed it back.

            by varro on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 11:18:17 AM PDT

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    •  So let's see.... (33+ / 0-)

      They're spending the serious, serious money to deny that climate change exists, and to try to circumvent healthcare for the public.  Through their eager enablers in ALEC, they are bringing forward nearly identical anti-union, anti-voting, anti-public services, anti-green energy and anti-gun control laws that are popping up in Republican-led states (and getting passed post haste in the dark of night).  

      These malevolent monsters are working brick by brick to bring this country to its knees.  What's so sad and disappointing is how utterly willing GOP politicians are to help them.  All they have to do is pony up the cash, and people who probably started out their careers believing in public service are all too happy to throw that away and aid in the destruction.

      The dystopian world they seek to create, with a population of hungry serfs working for and handful of wealthy overlords until they get sick, or get shot or get thrown in prison, while nature ravages the countryside and cities, is like a horror movie or futurist novel.  

      How to stop them?

      Never in history has so much money been spent to resist equality; the gross sums of money being spent to take us backwards is lewd, is pornographic is blatant and is arrogant. --Reverend Dr. William Barber, 2012

      by SottoVoce on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 04:53:06 AM PDT

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      •  I'm sure they sneer at this very comment (7+ / 0-)

        in their inner sanctums, but they are the embodiment of evil.

        They are the embodiment of greed, misery, neglect, deprivation, hate and war -- in short, the values and results of conservatism.

        And these malevolent brothers all but run the country.

        I literally hate them.

      •  ALEC is also behind the anti abortion laws too. (8+ / 0-)

        "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

        by zenbassoon on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 06:19:37 AM PDT

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        •  I wasn't sure of that, but doesn't it (4+ / 0-)

          just stand to reason?  My guess is that it's not a religious-based objection or a moral desire to protect innocent life.  Rather:

          If they're going to have a serf workforce, they don't want either 1) uppity women who don't know their place or 2) a decreased population.

          These guys are malevolent.  Where there's a bad policy, you can find their dirty hands.

          Never in history has so much money been spent to resist equality; the gross sums of money being spent to take us backwards is lewd, is pornographic is blatant and is arrogant. --Reverend Dr. William Barber, 2012

          by SottoVoce on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 06:49:54 AM PDT

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          •  The roadmap for GOP utopia (2+ / 0-)
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            No need to speculate, the roadmap for Republican nirvana has been out there for over 60 years. It's called 1984 by George Orwell.

            Orwell's companion piece describes the perfect social order in this utopian paradise and is called Animal Farm. The underlying truth of these perfect worlds is captured in the timeless, "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

            As we recently saw, the Roberts' Supreme Court embraced this concept in its decision on the Voting Rights Act. Also, the Republican House will no doubt pursue amending the Constitution after they prevent all abortion, arm every citizen with lethal firepower, mandate that every citizen accept Jesus and the Koch Brothers as their personal savior, promote all harmful chemical substances for their health benefits, remove all restrictions on all activities of "job creators" (who will be means tested--no one with net worth below 1 billion need apply), and the list goes on but I'm running out of space...and I'm sure you've all seen this movie already.

            "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana

            by GEldridge on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 08:46:25 AM PDT

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            •  The problem with 1984.... (2+ / 0-)
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              ....is that the proles were relatively free.

              The NSA wants to control everyone by watching their communications, not just the low-level party apparatchiks.  And the Anti-Sex leagues are much more active among the proles here than they were in 1984.

              9-11 changed everything? Well, Katrina changed it back.

              by varro on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 11:22:10 AM PDT

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              •  Problem? (1+ / 0-)
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                I know what you're saying, but it comes out strange to hear that it was a "problem" that the "proles" were relatively free.

                I read 1984 and Animal Farm back in college (maybe high school?) and haven't done a full revisit since. But my perception of Orwell's vision and the point I was trying to make was that a totally totalitarian regime with the face of "big brother" prescribed or proscribed all behavior as acceptable or unacceptable. Sounds like a Republican wet dream to me.

                "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana

                by GEldridge on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 12:20:04 PM PDT

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      •  The Initial Ad Needs To Be Fact Checked (3+ / 0-)
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        Not being able to see own doctor is a myth. More a criticism of HMO's than Obamacare. Premiums going up? Do not see how a person in her situation will see that. They will have to find younger people who want to avoid having insurance to find someone who might be negatively effected. If taking the risk of not having insurance is a negative.

        •  Why are the people blaming Obamacare (9+ / 0-)

          for rising insurance premiums instead of blaming the insurance companies?  Or greedy doctors?  Or unregulated medical device manufacturers?  or any other segment(s) of the health care industry?  Insurance premiums have been going up for years (and years, and years).  Is it just that these people now have one entity to target with blame instead of the entire system, and they're just too lazy to look at the big picture?  They can't have missed the rise in costs for the last thirty years.

          "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

          by SueDe on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 07:43:08 AM PDT

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          •  Evidence Already That The Exchanges (1+ / 0-)
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            will produce a moderating effect on premiums. So the rising premiums (kind of like people complaining about rising food prices in periods of low inflation) do not seem to be attributed to Obamacare.  

          •  I worked on a committee for my professional.... (5+ / 0-)

            ....association to negotiate health care plans.

            The health care plans conspired with each other to limit choices; some refused to bid on our group's coverage unless there was a maximum of two companies offering plants.

            The group was in a death spiral because young people were going without insurance because of the expense; while older and sicker people were staying in for fear of not being able to get coverage because of pre-existing conditions.  Result:  constantly increasing premiums, pushing out healthier people from the risk pool.

            9-11 changed everything? Well, Katrina changed it back.

            by varro on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 11:27:23 AM PDT

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            •  My neighbor was on the committee at her (1+ / 0-)
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              company to review their health care choices each year, and she tells the same story - frustrating, tragic and entirely preventable if we had a responsible congress.

              "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

              by SueDe on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 04:01:55 PM PDT

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    •  Pre-zip code (16+ / 0-)

      Before the 5-digit zip code, there were postal codes but they weren't as useful (or machine-readable). As I remember, it was something like "Lexington 73, Mass." (using the old-style state abbreviations) and became "Lexington MA 02173." So it wasn't a huge change in concept.

      The wingnuts do not object to zip codes. They object to the whole US Postal Service as envisioned by Ben Franklin, which is (obviously, to them) an unnecessary government service and should be replaced by a vacuum into which private delivery services will rush, at least to serve the 10% of the population who matter: businesses and rich city-dwellers. The rest? Meh.

      •  What these people want is for the (14+ / 0-)

        Postal Service to be reduced to nothing more than a "last mile" delivery service.  Private delivery services do not currently extend into rural areas (or even some suburban areas) if the cost or time involved in making deliveries is not advantageous to them.  Much of the time private delivery services hand off their packages bound for areas inconvenient and expensive for them to service but the postal service is bound by law to serve.

        I still think the postal service should host postal banking.  Doing so would strengthen the USPS bottom line and make banking available and convenient for the millions of Americans who do not have or can not afford access to private banks.  From an Alternet.org report on the idea and discussions held at the July, 2012 national convention of the National Association of Letter Carriers:

        Public postal banks can be profitable because their market is large and their costs are low: the infrastructure is already built and available, advertising costs are minimal, and government-owned banks do not award their management extravagant bonuses or commissions that drain profits away.  Profits return to the government and the people.  

        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 06:36:04 AM PDT

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