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    able to  understand that Joss Whedon may make a piece of art that does not completely comport with his leftist personal political views and instead asks a question. However, the difference is the treatment in which the question is given and if he is merely presenting a cautionary tale. Is he playing devils advocate with presenting total information awareness to his audience as something that we should be weary of allowing to happen or does he couch it in terms that this is an acceptable use of government power?

    I'm a huge Whedon fan as I have followed Buffy, Firefire, Dollhouse, and his other movies.

    The Beatles themselves were at the time considered subversive of youth and teenage girls. There were many demonstrations against their concerts at the time, in spite of how innocuous a great deal of their lyrics were.  I think if there was a DKos at the time they would be hailed as hero's of music, rallying against the conservative conventions of the time.

    “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” George Orwell

    by Tool on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 12:08:40 PM PDT

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    •  it may just be a plot device in which no more (3+ / 0-)
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      thought was placed than, the audience will buy it and i advance to the next explosion/fight scene/action sequence/special effect/pithy remark...

      in that case, the more interesting question is why does the director believe the audience will find it believable...

      top gun...  now that was a piece of propaganda!

      lol

      Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. - Gandalf the Grey

      by No Exit on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 01:05:49 PM PDT

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    •  Dollhouse? You are a Whedon fan! (1+ / 0-)
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      Me, too!

      As for the Beatles, my point is that pretty much everything they did and said puts them on the liberal to even radical side of the political spectrum -- with John Lennon being probably the most radical, but all of them would be very far left on our current American political spectrum. However, taken in isolation, "Taxman" can certainly be read (anachronistically) as a Tea Party anthem. Obviously, the Beatles weren't singing for English equivalent of the Ryan budget or chained CPI; the song was more of atavistic complaint about what seemed excessive to a newly minted millionaire -- it's kind of cry from the id. In isolation, it's actually been used as a anthem for anti-tax crusaders, but that doesn't make it worthless or bad, it's just an example of how great and politically messy good art can be. Trying to fit it into convenient political boxes almost never works.

      Now residing in Van Nuys, but "LaBobsterofVanNuys" isn't funny and besides, Van Nuys is really part of Los Angeles

      by LABobsterofAnaheim on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 02:16:12 PM PDT

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      •  Dushku (0+ / 0-)

        Killed Dollhouse. I'm convinced if Amy Ackerman had her role..

        But if you haven't seen Orphan Black, that's an actress with some skills

        Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

        by Chris Reeves on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 08:33:08 AM PDT

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