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  •  And If This Were A Fascism Diary (3+ / 0-)
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    ....you'd see this, as I mentioned in a diary that Indycam no doubt read:

    If you want to see diaries  where someone consistently posts (a negative) first comment then blathers for about a dozen comments, check out any Fascism diary over the last 5 or 6 years.  Why? It's various people, some of the banned, so I have no idea what gets them going.  But that  nattering wasn't limited to the recent Nazi pie fight.

    There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

    by bernardpliers on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 12:27:38 PM PDT

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    •  Playing fast and loose with The Holocaust (0+ / 0-)

      is something most people are revolted by .
      You posted a movie about the planning of the Holocaust in a diary about Alec .
      And you have said it was on purpose .
      That is offensive .

      The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. David Morrison

      by indycam on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 04:43:57 PM PDT

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      •  Fast and loose? (1+ / 0-)
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        Denying this shit is a certain path to something that makes the Holocaust look like child's play. The technology is there to bring about something beyond Hitler's twisted imagination.

        The Nazis weren't talking about exterminating the Jews.  They were scapegoating and re-educating them.  Most Germans had no idea that it was even happening like it was; most didn't want to believe it just like you don't want to believe WHAT IS RIGHT THE F^(k IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE.

        The meek shall inherit the Earth that the stupid destroyed.

        by CharlieHipHop on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 04:57:02 PM PDT

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        •  Way out of bonds - - without being wrong; (0+ / 0-)

          We can all agree we are on the path that leads to tremendous suffering, pain and death (how many have already died b/c of lack of medical care?) and we are already on the path of scapegoating and marginalizing certain groups.

          But to say that what we are heading toward "makes the holocaust look like child's play" is insulting to those that went through the actual holocaust put on trains, starved and gassed.  Could something monstrous happen, yes. Could it make it look like "childs play" - nothing could, what happened then will never look like "child's play" - it will always be remembered as one of the ugliest pieces of human history.

          There is no excuse whatsoever to accuse someone of believing everything is ok and especially tell them they don't want to believe "something is right the f""k in front of your face" - even if you are ultimately or currently right, that statement is deliberately aggressive to the point of "and I don't want to hear an opinion otherwise" while also establishing you are that much better than others. Make your point without a playground insult without the junior high mentality - like 99% of the people around here do. (See lunachikie's excellent comment making the same point below).

          Blessed are the peacemakers, the poor, the meek and the sick: The "party of Jesus" wouldn't invite him to their convention - fearing his "platform."

          by 4CasandChlo on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 07:00:38 PM PDT

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          •  Are you absolutely sure nothing could? Remember (0+ / 0-)

            the calls for the genocide of all muslims that were going out from several pundits after 9/11?  Well if that were to actually happen (which it could, though the country would have to move hard right and then there would have to be a terrorist attack) it would mean targeting 1.6 billion people for genocide.

            You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

            by Throw The Bums Out on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 09:35:53 PM PDT

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            •  As I said: (2+ / 0-)
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              Could something monstrous happen again? Yes.

              I actually meant to infer it could be the same, worse, whatever.

              Whatever happen does not mean the holocaust is "child's play" even if the US decided to destroy half a billion people - it does not mean the holocaust was "child's play" which I think is pretty insensitive to those victims and I think the term was used to get a cheap shot in.

              I specifically said IN THE TITLE "way out of bounds without being wrong" meaning I agree factually it could be bad or worse - - I have a HUGE problem with the "truth" being "right in front of your F*cking face" - - yeah, I have a huge problem with that kind of statement, regardless of whether it is right or wrong.

              I come here to learn and share opinions, it is not meant to be an echo chamber, I like nothing more than to have to reconsider my opinion b/c of something someone said about mine - - and b/c of that, I am going to call "out of bounds" to everyone that seems to be unable to disagree without direct insults because once someone throws out an insult to the people here, I couldn't care less about their point. Right or wrong - as I said in the title.

              I just read a diary where someone called someone's sincere comment "funny" and "cute" in how wrong it was. It is getting more and more prevalent and it pisses me off.

              Blessed are the peacemakers, the poor, the meek and the sick: The "party of Jesus" wouldn't invite him to their convention - fearing his "platform."

              by 4CasandChlo on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 09:57:36 PM PDT

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            •  I am sure a genocide of Holocaust (0+ / 0-)

              proportions would not happen here, now, led by the Right.
              Period.

              There is a very vocal opposition that is strong enough to elect a President two terms in a row. We dont' have to go farther than that.

              Since most people see that, we can only conclude that you are playing fast and loose with the genoside of the Jews in the Holocaust in using that reference.

              •  I wouldn't be so sure, if the country goes into (0+ / 0-)

                default and there end up being huge food shortages and constant blackouts because the dollar is pretty much worthless that could easily be enough for the far right to take over.  To insist that it could never happen in America no matter what because we are so special is just plain silly.

                You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

                by Throw The Bums Out on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 10:57:52 PM PDT

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        •  Fast and loose . (1+ / 0-)
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          Denying this shit is a certain path to something that makes the Holocaust look like child's play.

          alec is going to do something to make the "Holocaust look like child's play" ?
           "the mass murder or genocide of approximately six million Jews"
          What could they possibly do to make the genocide of approximately six million human beings look like "child's play" ?

          The standard you walk past is the standard you accept. David Morrison

          by indycam on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 08:10:12 PM PDT

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          •  Yes. (0+ / 0-)

            And I don't mean to diminish the horror of the Holocaust in any way.  But it would look like child's play compared to what is technically possible now.

            Think about that.

            The meek shall inherit the Earth that the stupid destroyed.

            by CharlieHipHop on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 07:09:06 PM PDT

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