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  •  I didn't know countries in Europe, Latin America (15+ / 0-)

    and Asia were also being scooped up in the massive info gathering.
    http://www.commondreams.org/...

    For example how many people knew this...

    As the headline suggests, the crux of the main article details how the NSA has, for years, systematically tapped into the Brazilian telecommunication network and indiscriminately intercepted, collected and stored the email and telephone records of millions of Brazilians. The story follows an article in Der Spiegel last week, written by Laura Poitras and reporters from that paper, detailing the NSA's mass and indiscriminate collection of the electronic communications of millions of Germans. There are many more populations of non-adversarial countries which have been subjected to the same type of mass surveillance net by the NSA: indeed, the list of those which haven't been are shorter than those which have. The claim that any other nation is engaging in anything remotely approaching indiscriminate worldwide surveillance of this sort is baseless.
    I don't think the following is common knowledge either...
    But contrary to what some want to suggest, the privacy rights of Americans aren't the only ones that matter. That the US government - in complete secrecy - is constructing a ubiquitous spying apparatus aimed not only at its own citizens, but all of the world's citizens, has profound consequences. It erodes, if not eliminates, the ability to use the internet with any remnant of privacy or personal security. It vests the US government with boundless power over those to whom it has no accountability. It permits allies of the US - including aggressively oppressive ones - to benefit from indiscriminate spying on their citizens' communications. It radically alters the balance of power between the US and ordinary citizens of the world. And it sends an unmistakable signal to the world that while the US very minimally  values the privacy rights of Americans, it assigns zero value to the privacy of everyone else on the planet.
    This development - the construction of a worldwide, ubiquitous electronic surveillance apparatus - is self-evidently newsworthy, extreme, and dangerous. It deserves transparency. People around the world have no idea that all of their telephonic and internet communications are being collected, stored and analyzed by a distant government. But that's exactly what is happening, in secrecy and with virtually no accountability. And it is inexorably growing, all in the dark. At the very least, it merits public understanding and debate. That is now possible thanks solely to these disclosures.
    (all emphasis mine)

    without the ants the rainforest dies

    by aliasalias on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 01:21:40 PM PDT

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    •  Common knowledge, no... (7+ / 0-)

      ...suspicions confirmed, yes.

      The assumption being, for anyone who cared to ponder the possibilty prior to the Snowden leaks, is that this type of data collection was being used on a massive scale and for purposes other than maintaining security against a terrorist threat.

      all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

      by 4kedtongue on Sun Jul 07, 2013 at 01:32:39 PM PDT

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