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  •  Don't discount gerrymandering (12+ / 0-)

    Combine gerrymandering of state and congressional districts with the constant barrage of righteous right propaganda from pulpit and press and TV...we're left with a steep hill to climb.

    •  Add to that, the undemocratic Senate and (1+ / 0-)
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      Electoral College and they can still screw things up for the majority.

    •  and that hill mae steeper by the constant attacks (1+ / 0-)
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      by the frustrati on the left.

      EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

      by edrie on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 11:13:31 AM PDT

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      •  um...made, not mae... nt (0+ / 0-)

        EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

        by edrie on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 11:32:11 AM PDT

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      •  That's crap. Hill made steeper by Dem abandonment (0+ / 0-)

        of the working and middle classes, is more like it. It has allowed itself to be taken over by big money (just as the GOP to a greater extent). The conservative trajectory of the Democrats was made possible by the vacuum left by the far far right Repugs, but much of the electorate, unable to see enough difference between the Dems and the GOP on key economic issues, is all-too-frequently tempted to vote GOP instead of for the former workers' party.

        The crisis of the GOP is also the crisis of the Democratic Party, and the weakening of American association and alignment with BOTH parties is the result. The Dem drift to the right is endangering it -- especially IF the GOP ever gets rid of the far right Teabagger/Talibangelical yoke and moderates. THe vacuum now is on the left, with working folks and paycheck-to-paycheck lower and middle class Americans left without any substantial representation among the Beltway political elite.

        "Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

        by Kombema on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 03:21:15 PM PDT

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        •  anyone who cannot see the difference (0+ / 0-)
          I've tried to explain the FISA bait-and-switch to a number of intelligent, over-educated people.  But unless you're steeped in surveillance law, it's hard to understand.
          only has to be female and childbearing age and need an abortion.

          when that wand is rammed up inside her (and it should be mandatory for the male who impregnated her, also, imho), then they will damned know the difference!

          EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

          by edrie on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 03:32:53 PM PDT

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          •  You're confusing some social issues (which are (0+ / 0-)

            held out often like scraps to the hungry Dem base) with core economic issues. Yes, Dems still more protective of gay, women's, minority social rights than Repugs. But on economic core issues, including role of government in society, much of the Dem Party is bought and sold to the corporations and the rest of the 1%.

            Tell me you firmly believe this to be a lie. If you see the Dems steadfastly defending the economic position of the rapidly declining middle class, then there's little to debate. If you will at least acknowledge the rightward fiscal and economic swing under Clinton and Obama, then we can debate about how much. how bad, and how important. Otherwise, it's just a rightwing talking point to trash "the left" as being an impediment to Democratic ascendancy. And a myth.  

            "Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

            by Kombema on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 03:53:20 PM PDT

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            •  i've had a very bad day and night tonite so i will (0+ / 0-)

              not respond to you tonite.  otherwise i might take your head off - and that would be unfair as other issues would be incorporated with my frustration at your position.

              we can pick this up later when i'm not in "green" mode (hulk).

              gnite

              EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

              by edrie on Mon Jul 08, 2013 at 11:57:33 PM PDT

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