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  •  Peace? (2+ / 0-)
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    The vast majority of the cables Bradley Manning unlawfully disclosed are routine communications between diplomats that provided no useful information about any wrongdoing, but greatly harmed our ability to conduct diplomacy throughout the world. The fact is, Manning probably did more to harm the cause of peace than William Calley ever did.

    •  And everyone knows -- (5+ / 0-)

      that the US is a great force for peace on earth, what with the Obama continuation of Dick Cheney's war on the world and no apologies for the million-or-so killed in Iraq.

      "It's not my fault reality is marxist." - Che Guevara

      by Cassiodorus on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 11:41:07 AM PDT

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    •  US gov did far more harm to peace than Manning (5+ / 0-)

      The actions of our government, up to this day and no doubt into the future, have done far more harm to the cause of peace and security than Manning, Snowden, Ellison, Asange, ever could.

      History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce - Karl Marx

      by quill on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 11:45:09 AM PDT

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      •  If you believe the US is the world's greatest evil (1+ / 0-)
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        then I suppose you wouldn't think its diplomatic efforts are worth much. But when I look at those cables I mostly see a bunch of frontline working stiffs analyzing media reports, relaying communications from world leaders, and, yes, trying to conduct peace—jobs that Bradley Manning and Julian Assange have now made immeasurably more difficult.

        •  yeah that whole (5+ / 0-)

          Arab spring thing needs to be shut down and the dictators put back in place.  It is possible that what Manning did will be more important than anything else.this century.  Terrorism is now not seen as a viable alternative in the middle east, while democratic uprisings over those cables.are not only possible, but inevitable.  

          Obama is on the wrong side.of history here.  And if he doesn't change course there will be mass.unrest here as well.  This genie isn't going back in the bottle.  

          Bad things aren't bad! And anyway, there's mitigation!

          by Nada Lemming on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 12:30:31 PM PDT

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        •  you forgot to mention "collateral murder" (4+ / 0-)
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          The collateral murder video was arguably the most influential leak by Manning. It depicted a heinous act by the US military that has gone unpunished, and is undoubtedly the tip of the iceberg in terms of undocumented and unaccounted war crimes committed in Iraq. From Fallujah to Abu Ghraib to rendition and torture, our actions in just that one country have probably permanently damaged the US image globally.

          Those State cables mostly revealed efforts at damage control from the fallout and further attempts to manipulate circumstances in our favor. Revealing that was just embarrassing, especially to our politicians, who always say one thing and do another.

          History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce - Karl Marx

          by quill on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 01:25:09 PM PDT

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          •  heinous act by the US military - unpunished (1+ / 0-)
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            It depicted a heinous act by the US military that has gone unpunished,

            So much that has gone unpunished........

            "Who are these men who really run this land? And why do they run it with such a thoughtless hand?" David Crosby

            by allenjo on Tue Jul 09, 2013 at 04:10:55 PM PDT

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        •  when I look at that heicopter Video I see war (3+ / 0-)
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          crimes and a cover up

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