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  •  No!! You missed whole point! Not groundwater! (7+ / 0-)

    It's like you didn't even read my comment.

    "Even if it's done as intended, with no leakage, fracking is an unconscionable waste -- each well using millions of gallons of water, contaminated forever."
    Even if there's no leakage -- no contamination of local groundwater -- the water being used to frack the shale rock has already been contaminated with chemicals that render it unfit for drinking or any other typical use.

    That water is then held in pits waiting to be disposed of -- with industry planning ultimately to inject this toxic liquid into old, abandoned oil and gas wells.

    That's millions of gallons that are wasted in fracking each well -- and then forever removed from the virtuous water cycle.

    I'm not even talking about whether that water can be safely disposed -- because let's face it, no well is built with the kind of integrity to last centuries, much less millenia. That water will seep out of the wells and into the water table eventually -- but I"m not talking about that future contamination. And, I'm not talking about any other accidental contamination.

    I'm referring to the deliberate contamination of millions of gallons of water used to extract the trapped gas and oil. Never to be consumed again.

    You completely missed the point -- which is to skip past the debate which industry wants. The debate should be whether we want to allow an industrial process that contaminates so much water, even when the process works exactly as the industry claims. I think that's a suicide pact.

    Coming Soon -- to an Internet connection near you: Armisticeproject.org

    by FischFry on Thu Jul 11, 2013 at 07:47:38 PM PDT

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    •  You said: (2+ / 0-)
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      Even if there's no leakage -- no contamination of local groundwater -- the water being used to frack the shale rock has already been contaminated with chemicals that render it unfit for drinking or any other typical use.
      Your statement does not recognize the technical feasibility of recycling produced process wastewater for reinjection in other wells.   I realize that not all of the water comes back and is lost from a volumetric standpoint.

      I am not saying or minimizing the impact that water withdrawals can have on adversely affecting streams if local groundwater is drawn down for hydraulic fracturing.

      On the other hand, saying that hydraulic fracturing is going to lower the levels of the Great Lakes is junk hydrology, as is presently being claimed in Michigan.

      •  I am so relieved (3+ / 0-)
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        Thank you for setting me straight.

        It's technically feasible to recycle the wastewater for other wells.

        I will work with legislators and regulators to ensure that industry will rely on wastewater for future injection. How much is lost from a volumetric standpoint? 10%? 20%? Let's agree that all future drilling must use at 75% recycled wastewater.

        This will be a win/win, as industry won't need to dispose of wastewater in decaying wells that would create risk of earthquakes and groundwater contamination for decades or centuries. The industry can just truck that toxic wastewater around the country, without any risk to anyone.

        By the way, where does that water go -- the water lost from a volumetric standpoint? I'm sure it cannot be left in the ground within veins created by fracturing rock. That would pose a considerable risk of migration into aquifers and groundwater. Thankfully, we already know that's not a real risk, that it's just propaganda and junk geology, right?

        And, it wouldn't be lost through leaks and spillage occurring aboveground right? Because that would pose a real risk of contaminating local water supplies and would pose a health risk to local residents.

        Coming Soon -- to an Internet connection near you: Armisticeproject.org

        by FischFry on Fri Jul 12, 2013 at 06:00:25 AM PDT

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