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  •  I doubt it (2+ / 0-)
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    duhban, PinHole

    but it's not really necessary either

    What gets your name on watch lists is stuff like signing petitions and donating to radical organizations.  They don't give a shit about what you do online.

     

    Praxis: Bold as Love

    by VelvetElvis on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 03:56:10 AM PDT

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    •  how do you know this? (3+ / 0-)
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      petitions are a public stand

      they want to know everything about everyone

      •  personal experience (3+ / 0-)
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        I used to be involved in some revolutionary socialist stuff.  

        It's a long story.

        It was his signature on a petition that kept Van Jones from being Obama's Green Energy Czar.

        What you do in meatspace matters a whole lot more than what you do online.

        Praxis: Bold as Love

        by VelvetElvis on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 04:41:41 AM PDT

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    •  Yeah, I don't understand why people (1+ / 0-)
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      who are so concerned about their privacy sign (and sponsor!) petitions. They suspect the government would do things like spy on people who sign petitions, but they sign them anyhow. To me, it's just not worth it. My one signature will change the world exactly zero point zero. But it could expose me to, well, who knows?

      •  I sign them (0+ / 0-)

        If we really are going to hell in that hand basket (which I highly doubt) I'm down with getting arrested.   From my POV, the best way to deal with each new level of increasing government surveillance is to keep on doing what you have been doing and not give a shit.

         

        Praxis: Bold as Love

        by VelvetElvis on Sat Jul 13, 2013 at 08:29:19 AM PDT

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        •  Ironic. (1+ / 0-)
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          I don't mind the surveillance much, so I don't protest it, and am unlikely therefore to be a target of it. Those who are the most bothered by it post information online or sign petitions that draw attention to themselves, and become more likely to be surveilled. That is irony.

      •  Dag you certainly (0+ / 0-)

        cover the full spectrum of cowardly negativity and submission to authority. Be it instilling fear of legal participation like signing petitions, supporting downright authoritarian anti-democratic policy or arguing for fear of whatever boogie men the freaking government waves is your face? Then there's your endless demonizing of any person who dares to challenge this bogus authority.    Other then your love of the president why in the hell are you a Democrat? According to you we should all just roll over and except whatever these fuckers decide is the 'way forward' or the law.

        •  Well, you may want to put on your (0+ / 0-)

          reading glasses are re-read my comments. I don't agree with a policy of targeting petition-signers. But I don't pretend it doesn't exist either. And yes, I love this president, and am proud of that. And I suppose I am a Democrat because I've voted only for Dems for 30 years, give money only to Dems, agree with the GOP on zero issues, hate them, and have been on liberal blogs since the day they were invented. If my credentials don't meet your standards, than boo hoo for me. Some random person on the internet says I am not a good Democrat because we disagree on some issues or whatever. Do you think that the anger that causes you to label other progressives as unworthy is going to allow you to look back on your life as a happy one? Lose the anger (and the arrogance) and you will lead a happier life.

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