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  •  Frightening, isn't it? (4+ / 0-)
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    If Edward Snowden is proving one thing, it’s this: in 2013, Planet Earth isn’t big enough to protect the American version of “dissidents.”  Instead, it looks ever more like a giant prison with a single implacable policeman, judge, jury, and jailer.
    And you know, I'm not even sure I blame the current administration for anything other than 'self-preservation'. I don't say that to make excuses for them, I say it because I can't fathom the idea that the EU is so goddamn afraid of Washington that they'd risk an international incident on our behalf against a President of a sovereign nation in the southern hemisphere, even over "economics". IMO, there's something else going on here, that us Little People aren't privy to.

    Hell, South America and its various nation-states don't exactly make up an insignificant little archipelago with zero clout. And on the heels of "We're not going to scramble fighters", what did we do? We had other governments essentially do it for us.

    That guy's got something big on the US that hasn't come out yet. Big. BIG. Or he wouldn't be so sought-after.

    This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

    by lunachickie on Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 09:07:59 AM PDT

    •  "That guy must have something big on us..." (2+ / 0-)
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      I remember having the exact same thought back in 2002 in the run up to the Iraq War, but not about Snowden.  The ridiculous overkill, the desperate attempt to make a case for war with Iraq that just went all over the place, hundreds of different contradictory reasons floated (my all-time favorite was the one that said Captain Scott Speicher who was KIA in 1999 was being tortured somewhere by Saddam Hussein.  Saddam Hussein TORTURES PEOPLE!)... so much of that that I figured, ya know, they are so panicked and desperate for this and making up so many lies, there must be SOME REAL reason that they're not telling us about.  

      So, I was against the war, but maybe there were other people like me that thought, yeah, just maybe, there is a real reason, a good reason, for this war, but they're just not telling it to us yet, and it has them scared.

      ......... And it turns out, it was all BULLSHIT.

      I think this is the same thing.  If there was something Snowden had that the government didn't want foreign powers to get, they would be making any deal they could to get Snowden OUT of RUSSIA, even if that means a neutral country like Bolivia.  They have now effectively made him a prisoner in the country that we, allegedly, most fear he will turn over secrets to.

      Which proves to me that they aren't afraid of anything he could leak to the Russians.  That, or the government is just brain damaged.  That's a possibility too.  Reckless overreaction, too many gophered in Bushies wanting to teach liberals a lesson.

      •  yes, and (0+ / 0-)
        Reckless overreaction, too many gophered in Bushies wanting to teach liberals a lesson
        then there are the actual Republicans . . .

        Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

        by corvo on Wed Jul 17, 2013 at 09:00:35 AM PDT

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