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  •  You keep referencing the authority of the ACLU but (2+ / 0-)
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    they aren't seers and make mistakes too. Unintended consequences creep up.

    Just like the ACLU saw no problem with police license plate scanners... until the police abused that power. "At first, we (ACLU) didn't think it posed much of a privacy problem..."

    Police may know exactly where you were last Tuesday

    License plate scanners are the dark horse of the surveillance world. They've been around for a decade, but people rarely notice. They don't look much different from closed circuit cameras, perched over busy intersections. Or they're just another device mounted on a passing police car.

    But they notice you: A scanner can ID thousands of plates a day. And says the vast majority of police agencies now use them.

    --snip--

    "At first, we didn't think it posed much of a privacy problem," Crump said. The ACLU saw a system that triggered a real-time alert to the presence of a stolen vehicle, or a car linked to a fugitive, and that seemed acceptable. But then the group realized police were storing the license plate scans — whether or not there had been a "hit."

    The ACLU's public records requests show some departments have accumulated millions of scans, and the agencies store the data for years — even indefinitely. The scans are also being shared across departments, and with the federal government.


    A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit.

    by bronte17 on Wed Jul 17, 2013 at 10:45:57 AM PDT

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    •  I cite them because they have a good summary (3+ / 0-)

      You can certainly go to the exacct language of the bill.
      It pertains only to State and the BBG, and it covers only material intended for distribution overseas.

      Except as provided in paragraph (2), the Secretary and the Broadcasting Board of Governors may, upon request and reimbursement of the reasonable costs incurred in fulfilling such a request, make available, in the United States, motion pictures, films, video, audio, and other materials prepared for dissemination abroad or disseminated abroad
      No funds authorized to be appropriated to the Department of State or the Broadcasting Board of Governors shall be used to influence public opinion in the United States.
      The provisions of this section shall apply only to the Department of State and the Broadcasting Board of Governors and to no other department or agency of the Federal Government.’.
      http://www.govtrack.us/...

      “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

      by Catte Nappe on Wed Jul 17, 2013 at 10:59:19 AM PDT

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      •  I think it's naive to think this... (0+ / 0-)

        "lifting of the ban" on domestic propaganda as being innocuous.

        You keep saying that it means they're just going to start piping in VoA and Radio Free Europe. While that may be true; what's to stop them from developing other programs?

        I believe that propaganda will be come in any number of ways, shapes and forms. These guys are masters of agitprop. And our government just codified it for domestic consumption. It's unwise to give them the benefit of the doubt here. Our federal government deserves no such consideration at this point in time.

        They'll develop radio/tv programming and with attractive spokespeople that deliver just the right amount of truth to make what they're selling seem credible -- while at the same time strategically injecting a proportionate amount of agitprop into the mix.

        And it's bound to go beyond that to eventually include press releases and external memorandum from regulatory agencies, Congress and the White House. We already have enough of a problem squeezing the truth out of our government.

        That arduous task has just become exponentially more difficult... and more complex.

        'Cuz freedom can't protect itself ~~ EFF ~ EPIC ~ ACLU

        by markthshark on Wed Jul 17, 2013 at 06:59:16 PM PDT

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        •  So, who to trust as a source? (0+ / 0-)

          And don't all of these government agencies already
          issue press and news releases? Should we foot the bill
          for commercial advertising and related marketing? Aren't
          advertising costs included in the price of everything we buy?

          Do I trust an anonymous blogger
          or my own sheeple eyes and ears?

          If my tinfoil blocks out corporate and government
          frequencies, what can I use against agitprop internet
          unicorn outrage glitterati? Will these rainbows work?

          How can we address and solve global issues without
          granting sovereignty to ourselves beyond the nation state?

          Obviously, those who fear and distrust their own elected
          leaders are not going to be a source for needed solutions
          in the political and economic systems now extant.

          Exactly where, and what, are your solutions?

        •  Read the effing bill (0+ / 0-)
          No funds authorized to be appropriated to the Department of State or the Broadcasting Board of Governors shall be used to influence public opinion in the United States.
          The provisions of this section shall apply only to the Department of State and the Broadcasting Board of Governors and to no other department or agency of the Federal Government.’.
          No ban on domestic propaganda was lifted. The only ban that was lifted was the one that prevented us from viewing/hearing what they were already disseminating in foreign countries.

          “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

          by Catte Nappe on Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 09:23:49 AM PDT

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