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  •  Portland's plastic bag ban went without a hitch (25+ / 0-)

    The better stores offer sturdy paper bags with handles, which I reuse until a handle breaks.  Safeway, it must be said, is not one of the better stores.

    I really can't fathom what sort of troglodyte seriously feels as if their freedom has been eroded by banning plastic bags.

    Cause he gets up in the morning, And he goes to work at nine, And he comes back home at five-thirty, Gets the same train every time.

    by Keith930 on Fri Jul 26, 2013 at 06:37:27 PM PDT

    •  Santa Monica Bag Ban: no problemo (7+ / 0-)

      It's been over a year, and so I've used up the closet full of plastic grocery bags I'd been "saving."

      Also have a selection of reuseable  bags (great for laundry, and hauling other stuff like books to the library, etc.)

      Some of Trader Joe's bags are so ginchy gals use 'em for purses. '

      Paper bags when I forget 'em, which are then filled with recycleables.

      That plus my fold up crate/cube for lugging groceries, or an actual grocery cart and I'm all set.

      •  Are plastic bags required for trash (3+ / 0-)
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        annan, tle, timethief

        in those cities?
        I have lived in areas where trash barrels were banned in favor of large, easy to toss plastic bags.

        For decades, I have refused to buy those kitchen bags for the sole purpose of trashing them- the worst waste of money and resources - i hope these are banned as well.

        I would almost rather we continue to have plastic grocery bags available to be used secondarily for trash than see an increase in the thicker, larger trash bags go into the garbage stream.

        Of course, finding alternatives for all plastic would be the ultimate goal.

        'A scarlet tanager broke the silence with his song. She thought of the bird hidden in the leaves somewhere, unseen but nevertheless brilliant red. Nevertheless beautiful.' Barbara Kingsolver/ Prodigal Summer

        by flowerfarmer on Sat Jul 27, 2013 at 03:46:16 AM PDT

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        •  Ann Arbor went about it a different way (2+ / 0-)
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          chantedor, flowerfarmer

          They spent $$ up front, purchased large specific wheeled trash, compost, and recycle bins for every household in the city, and delivered them free of charge.  New, fuel-efficient trash trucks were purchased, with 'grabbers' attached, that pick up the bins, dump them into the truck and place them back on the curb.
          It takes less people to run a truck now, saves on back injuries, since the truck is doing all the heavy lifting, and makes for quicker and safer trash pickup, since the driver never usually needs to leave the cab.
          All of the recycle is single stream, something I believe in, so I can put any variety of recyclable into one bin, knowing it will be sorted at the A2 Recycle Facility.
          Compost is also taken to the A2 Recycle Facility where it is turned mostly into mulch for use in our city parks.
          It's a good system, and one I recommend to any community.

          "It just kills me that we put that idiot in office… twice. But I guess there has never been a shortage of idiots in politics." Helen Philpot writing about GWB, April 25, 2013

          by WSComn on Sun Jul 28, 2013 at 08:28:08 AM PDT

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          •  Here in Paradise, CA (2+ / 0-)
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            WSComn, flowerfarmer

            we have the same exact system you describe. And I agree that it's a good one that works quite well! Although when I'm walking my dog up the street, I can't believe all the non-recyclable stuff people stick into the recycling bins that I can see sticking out the top. Guess people working at the facility have to pull all this stuff out and dispose of it elsewhere.

            I can't imagine the system described by the poster you were responding to above actually working, as animals tend to tear into plastic garbage bags (I even had them chew through plastic garbage cans in the past) and strew the trash all over the place.

            •  Same here.... (2+ / 0-)
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              chantedor, flowerfarmer

              I see garden hoses, etc., sticking out.  I guess that it's part of the job, cleaning all that out.  Wouldn't need to be that way if everyone understood and followed the rules.

              And given the number of coons, skunks and deer we have in the city (really... it's a freaking menagerie around here, lol!), I agree that plastic bags on their own would turn into a nightmare of a cleanup job!

              "It just kills me that we put that idiot in office… twice. But I guess there has never been a shortage of idiots in politics." Helen Philpot writing about GWB, April 25, 2013

              by WSComn on Sun Jul 28, 2013 at 03:44:22 PM PDT

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          •  Although in our case (2+ / 0-)
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            WSComn, flowerfarmer

            the town didn't purchase the bins and trucks, but contracted with a waste management company that supplies everything.

    •  Maui looks so much better since the ban (0+ / 0-)

      Our trades constantly blow and before the plastic bag ban there were unsightly shredded plastic bags festooning the trees, bushes and fences.  It looked like someone TP'd our island.

      Since the ban 100% cleaner.

      We're a small island with limited landfill space and this has worked very well for us.

      I can remember as a child living in England when everyone took a handbasket to shop with and except for your meat that was wrapped in butcher paper, there were NO bags offered for anything.

      It's no big deal to bring your own bag or basket.

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