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  •  Well I found a 3rd party essay on Nugent (5+ / 0-)

    It includes (I think) the complete bill.

    None of funds made available by this Act may be used by the National Security Agency to—

    (1) conduct an acquisition pursuant to section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 for the purpose of targeting a United States person; or

    (2) acquire, monitor, or store the contents (as such term is defined in section 2510(8) of title 18, United States Code) of any electronic communication of a United States person from a provider of electronic communication services to the public pursuant to section 501 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978.

    But I do not see how this conclusion is reached:
    it is specifically designed to NOT change any of the current practices.
    It explicitly forbids the collection and storage of telephone call / email contents which is an ongoing practice or so I have been led to understand.

    Now it might be true the Nugent bill does not stop the collection of "from whom / to whom" metadata about phone calls. That omission even my layman eye picked up. But it seems wrong to conclude the Nugent version does not change anything at all.

    Well, now I know a bit more and my eyes are even more blurred. Thanks for the leads.

    •  I have found a number of helpful analyses (4+ / 0-)

      around the various tech sites and social justice blogs I frequent, but this post over at Techdirt is both lucid and comprehensive in its breakdown of the differences between the amendments.

      If you see a sacred cow, milk it for all it's worth. -Swami Beyondananda

      by The Free Agent on Wed Jul 24, 2013 at 10:07:27 AM PDT

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    •  Because that Amendment does (5+ / 0-)

      effectively nothing.  In particular it refers to Section 702 of FISA and Section 501. The NSA isn't acquiring or collecting under either of those sections.

      The NSA collections that have been shown in the released documents by The Guardian, et al. concern Section 215 of the PATRIOT Act.  

      Two different things. One addresses the Section of the law the NSA is using to justify the collections while the other doesn't address it at all.

      •  This is exactly what I got out of it too (4+ / 0-)
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        StrayCat, maryabein, aliasalias, MindRayge

        when I looked things over. Nugent's amendment pretty much redundantly emphasizes the limitations already in place re: section 702, while completely avoiding placing any new limits on section 215.

        Which, as you point out, is what the total collection of all Verizon/US telecom data is enabled by, and the whole point of this vote today.

        It's just barely scratching the surface of what needs to be addressed, but it's a start...

        If you see a sacred cow, milk it for all it's worth. -Swami Beyondananda

        by The Free Agent on Wed Jul 24, 2013 at 01:02:43 PM PDT

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