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  •  House Conservatives support Amash amendment. (5+ / 0-)

    The Hill: Justin Amash claims strong support for NSA amendment:

    Rep. Justin Amash said he has strong support for his amendment to the Defense appropriations bill that would defund the NSA program that collects billions of Americans phone records.

    “It’s very broad and it’s broad because the American people support it,” Amash (R-Mich.) said at a panel discussion with House conservatives Wednesday morning.

    In unusual form, a small debate broke out about the amendment during the monthly Conversation with Conservatives event. Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), who serves on the House Intelligence Committee, was the only member of the panel to say that she would be voting against Amash’s amendment.

    The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

    by lysias on Wed Jul 24, 2013 at 12:55:43 PM PDT

    •  Bachman quotes dKos trolls -- HA! (9+ / 0-)

      (lysias, your link is to Politico, not the Hill, but it's still a good story)

      Just following the Bachmann quote given by lysias above, Bachmann explains her position:

      Bachmann made the case that the program doesn’t violate Fourth Amendment rights because the businesses own the records being obtained, not the individuals.

      “There is no expectation of privacy,” Bachmann said. “Individuals do not own the records.”

      For those who have been engaging in the NSA-related diaries here on dKos, we've heard that same language many, many times from the NSA apologists who have aggressively disrupted these diaries.

      IIRC, this position is based on the ancient Smith case which used a 'pen register' to write down the phone number(s) called by one man whose calls were being traced as part of a specific criminal investigation.  The weak reed of the Smith case is one of the NSA's 'strongest' arguments for justifying the blanket collection it currently practices -- and which the Amash/Conyers Amendment would de-fund.

      •  Now, Now, Now; You Don't Know That (1+ / 0-)
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        Bachman quotes dKos trolls
        What proof do you have that it isn't the other way around?

        On the Internet, nobody knows if you're a dog... but everybody knows if you're a jackass.

        by stevemb on Wed Jul 24, 2013 at 02:51:00 PM PDT

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        •  I was using the traditional earlier-to-later time (0+ / 0-)

          period of temporal flow to ascribe the later 'quote' to Bachmann.

          But perhaps I err in choosing the traditional timescale arbitratrily established by the literate while male patriarchcal societal norms..

          If so, my bad.

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