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  •  Funny, I'm 56 years old and... (0+ / 0-)

    I can't remember that time.

    "Pity. I remember when America stood AGAINST torture and surveillance and the rest. Wasn't that long ago."

    "I was so easy to defeat, I was so easy to control, I didn't even know there was a war." -9.75, -8.41

    by RonV on Sat Jul 27, 2013 at 06:34:25 AM PDT

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    •  I'm a bit older... but you're right of course (1+ / 0-)
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      The human race has never been against torture or surveillance of others. It's just that the definition of "Others" has creeped into becoming everyone all over.

      It did make the news when My Lai came out & there was a bit of a stink in the old MSM of the day. [Look it up kids] But when Bradley Manning evidently released the gunship films and it got made into a fundraising presentation by Asange, it was to mostly a ho hum in the media. Along the lines of the perps in the last administration who sold enhanced interrogations. No public outcry, no press coverage, no prosecutions.

      Manning's post-arrest treatment has also been mostly below the notice of most media and their readers/listeners/viewers. I can also mention the  laser-like Where's Waldo press coverage on Snowden the person versus on WHAT he leaked.

      We, the people... either just don't give a rats furry ass about liberty or become obsessive gun-nut paranoiacs in Freemen compounds [when we're not running the local sheriff's or police departments] Doesn't seem to be much in the middle... or in the media.

      "if we cannot make our communities safer with the Congress we have now, we will use every means available to make sure we have a different Congress,.. To do nothing while others are in danger is not the American way." - Gabby Giffords

      by daddybunny on Sat Jul 27, 2013 at 09:55:32 AM PDT

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