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  •  sounds like circular logic (2+ / 0-)
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    dizzydean, quill

    "Since you wont care for me, I wont vote for you."

    "Oh well, since you wont vote for me, I wont care for you."

    It only requires once to step out of this cycle to break it. And what a reward!

    •  breaking the cycle is on the poor? (4+ / 0-)
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      dizzydean, marsanges, Laconic Lib, PhilK

      Poor people don't vote for a lot of reasons. In this discussion, we seem to have taken as a given that political parties should ignore the problems of poor because they don't vote, as opposed to taking care of them because it's the right thing to do. You seem to be suggesting that it's the fault of the poor that society and our political system treats them badly - because they don't vote in large enough numbers. That sounds like more scapegoating to me.

      History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce - Karl Marx

      by quill on Mon Aug 05, 2013 at 12:10:10 PM PDT

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      •  no, not at all! (3+ / 0-)
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        dizzydean, zmom, quill

        opposite is the case.

        seems to me, mobilizing the poor might be the key to actual change. (Huh, I can´t be the first one to have that genius idea.)

        •  Yes, it could be revolutionary... (1+ / 0-)
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          dizzydean

          But, I think it won't ever happen if the lower class doesn't feel that they are going to get anything out of it. But getting the political class to pay attention to the poor is nearly impossible right now, and so a stalemate.

          I see one hopefully possibility: immigrants, particularly Hispanic, often bring their own strongly held political views and the Democratic party is paying them lots of attention to bring them into the fold. In coming years as we become minority-majority we may see more of a focus on poverty as Latinos and other people of color who are a little more radical move into politics. That is, if we have anything close to a functioning democracy by that time.

          History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce - Karl Marx

          by quill on Mon Aug 05, 2013 at 02:16:52 PM PDT

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