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  •  This is such a strange time (6+ / 0-)

    If you support Snowden, we say it's a cult of personality.

    If I support Obama, you say it's a cult of personality.

    If you support Snowden, according to you, we sling uncharitable bullshit accusations at you.

    In the same sentence you decry us calling you "worshippers", you call us "Obama fans" or "Obama policy fans".

    Hmm, so if you can support someone without worshipping them, then why is it that we can't support Obama without being called worshippers?

    I support Obama.  I'm a critic of the NSA.  Why is this so difficult to comprehend?  That we can support Obama AND criticize the NSA, and therefore there IS NO ROXX SIDE.

    Because the "roxx side" is supposedly made up of people who think Obama can do no wrong and therefore we are blinded to what's wrong with the NSA.

    Diary after diary about Snowden being a hero, but no diary about Obama being a hero, and we're the worshippers?

    Bottom line, is that just about word for word we can say the same thing you just said, with just as much hurt, as much fervor.

    Go to every diary starting with "Yawn you fucking idiots" and you will find them rife with those exact comments:  If you aren't ready to condemn Obama and wholly embrace Snowden, you don't care about the 4th Amendment.  You're an apologist.  You're like bush, you're like a Hitler follower, you're willfully ignorant, blah blah.

    I mean, I saw those comments so many times, and I've been in the minority and bashed so thoroughly by "your" side,  that I'm completely amazed that you actually think that happened to you and can't see it happened to us.

    I'll find any number of examples just to finally prove it.

    I shall return.

    Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek. Barack Obama

    by delphine on Sat Aug 17, 2013 at 10:23:44 PM PDT

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    •  A "fan" doth not make a "worshipper." Not sure (1+ / 0-)
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      what the problem is. I'm a "fan" of the Bill of Rights, and of Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, and of a sports team or two. So if you're an "enthusiastic supporter" of Obama, then you're a fan, no?

      And in my taxonomy, I do not put honest critics of the NSA programs in the "Rox" side -- but primarily people who ardently defend it because Obama's doing it, and who reflexively and derisively attack critics of NSA and the president.

      "Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

      by Kombema on Sun Aug 18, 2013 at 12:17:50 PM PDT

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