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  •  No, most likely what they wanted to do was (25+ / 0-)

    compromise his electronics so that they can be used to spy on him.  Yes, including the game consoles.  If he is smart he will either trash them as soon as he gets them back or possibly use them to feed false information to whoever is monitoring them.

    You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

    by Throw The Bums Out on Sun Aug 18, 2013 at 11:16:45 PM PDT

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    •  Both, I imagine, in varing degrees per device. n/t (18+ / 0-)

      "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

      by YucatanMan on Sun Aug 18, 2013 at 11:33:22 PM PDT

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    •  BTW, telescreens are already here (11+ / 0-)
      9 Household Items That Could Be Spying on You
      Here are nine appliances and other systems inside your house that may be spying on you right now, or used to spy on you in the future.

      [Just the list here.  Fuller info at the link.]

      1. Your Television

      2. Your Cable Box

      3. Your Dishwasher, Clothes Dryer, Toaster, Clock Radio and Remote Control

      4. Your Lights

      5. Your Heat and A/C

      6. Security Alarms

      7. Insulin Pumps and Pacemakers

      8. Smartphones

      9. Your Tablet and Computer

      Our privacy is threatened. Every day our most precious asset (our identity) is put at risk by us and those who wish to track our every movement, word, thought and search. We need a national conversation – where everyone participates – about just how widespread such monitoring has become. General Petraeus is dead on. Such devices could and inevitably will change our notions of secrecy. Let’s not simply opt for progress without proper safeguards.

      I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

      by NonnyO on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 02:01:53 AM PDT

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      •  And most of them are run my teenagers (7+ / 0-)

        RATware (Remote Administration Tools) that use device cameras and microphones are now cheap and plentiful on pirate hacker sites and use if exploding amongst teenage boys, particularly, but also some adults who use photos for extortion.

        Of course, they cannot match the sophistication of tools like STUXNET, FLAME or other bot network malware/spyware created by the US and Israeli governments, but if you use public networks and want to protect yourself, a removable sticker on your camera is a cheep investment.

        400ppm : what about my daughter's future?

        by koNko on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 02:53:45 AM PDT

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        •  I wouldn't be so sure about that. There are quite (4+ / 0-)
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          a few botnets and other such tools that make FLAME look like a child's toy.  Sure, none of them target SCADA systems but that is because they want to make money off them, not commit acts of sabotage/terrorism.

          Heck, some of the old school viruses were far more sophisticated in what they did especially given the limited hardware and what passed for an OS (i.e. DOS) back then.  Just look at some of the stuff the demoscene puts out if you want to see some of that kind of sophistication today in a safe and non-malicious way.

          You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

          by Throw The Bums Out on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 03:40:42 AM PDT

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          •  I'd be very interested in any cases of botnets (2+ / 0-)
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            More sophisticated than Flame or Stuxnet, which have some of the most ingenious coding seen in years, specifically, the chosen-prefix collision attack coding which partly accounts for the early conclusion they were the work of some very high level coders with a big budget. And by the way, one of the tell-tale "signatures" was some "old school" coding uncharacteristic of more contemporary viruses and malware.

            But if you have any links to documents about botnets running more sophisticated codes, they would be appreciated.

            Most code used by criminals are actually pretty crude and the basic reason to use botnets, aside from secrecy, is to launch a massive number of attacks to find random computers with vulnerabilities to exploit.

            My own VPN server, which is pretty anonymous and of no discernible interest, logs hundreds to thousands of attempted entires per month, most of them repetitive attacks I assume to be from botnets that never get past the firewall because they are unsophisticated, known and easily filtered, and this is the typical experience.

            Maybe we need to define sophisticated? I was pretty impressed with the Flame code and analysis published on security boards.

            400ppm : what about my daughter's future?

            by koNko on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 06:08:54 AM PDT

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            •  You might want to check slashdot for that kind (1+ / 0-)
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              of thing because there have been several which were nearly impossible to take down and it was pure luck that there were RNG vulnerabilities in the public key encryption and such flaws.

              You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

              by Throw The Bums Out on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 11:29:33 AM PDT

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            •  Did you read the chats with HB Gary and (0+ / 0-)

              Anonymous?

              I got pretty deep into that story and Greg was supposedly working on some crazy sophisticated rootkit.

              That these types of guys were engaged in sliming Greenwald and taking out enemies of the Establishment for millions per month, made the NSA story much different, I think than for most people.

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              by k9disc on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 11:25:01 PM PDT

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        •  Or black electrician's tape (2+ / 0-)
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          Very useful if used properly. Even more so than duct tape IMO.

          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 07:07:48 AM PDT

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