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  •  Hmm, let me think about Brin's comments (3+ / 0-)
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    jeopardydd, caul, kyril

    Let's see. Things of Card's that I've read:

    Most of his old short stories and novellas. I don't remember any "ubermenshce demigods" in those.

    All the Ender books. Brin's right here, though I don't really recognize a "demigod" in Speaker, Xenocide, or Children, depending I guess on your views of Peter and maybe Wang-mu in Children. Jane shouldn't count. It doesn't help Card that he (like so many writers) went back to the same well time after time.

    Wyrms. Well, I don't agree with Brin on this one. Yes, Patience is the subject of the prophecy.  But she doesn't really do all that much herself.

    Treason (Card's 1988 revision of the 1979 novel A Planet Called Treason). I'll give Brin that one, but it's a whole planet filled with people with crazy abilities. The protagonist just manages to learn more than he was born with.

    Part of Homecoming. A book or two, no more than that. I got bored with it. Can't comment on Brin.

    Alvin Maker. Have to give Brin that one. Personally think it got worse after Prentice Alvin.

    Pastwatch. Whatever you think of the book, I don't remember any demigods there either.

    •  pastwatch (3+ / 0-)
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      Bob Love, stevemb, caul

      super scientists travel to the past, loaded down with exact knowledge of future events, a miracle virus, and scientific knowledge far in advance of the time. that's pretty demi-goddy to me.

      •  I disagree as I liked this book a lot.... (2+ / 0-)
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        caul, kyril

        The 3 main characters are African, Mayan and Muslim... Kinda odd for a guy whose gone off the racial deep end. The person who figured out the past was messed with wasn't special at all. She just happened to grew up in the Pastwatch program and figured out ways to manipulate the machines. The characters are smart but so are most people who work in such a program, normal scientists.

        They come to the conclusion that a European dominated society or the hypothetical Native American dominated society both end in disaster but for different reasons and try to set a course where both end up winning by cooperation.

        I found it fairly brilliant that some white person didn't come save the day. In fact, the vast majority of white people in the novel (Columbus's crew) were the villains. Even Columbus was portrayed as far from saintly but he learns the error of his ways and marries the African woman.

        As for Ender's Game. I liked the book as well but not as much as Bean's version of events in Ender's Shadow. I won't go see the movie because I think it's going to suck compared to the book, like most adaptations and especially because OSC is plain friggin loco. I'll rip the torrent, watch and delete.

    •  What disturbs me is that so many of Card's books (2+ / 0-)
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      caul, stevemb

      are about ephebes.

      "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10 UID: 8519

      by Bob Love on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 09:04:18 PM PDT

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