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    duhban, ballerina X, Tortmaster

    first of all, you most certainly DO support corporations with your tax dollars, often when you have no choice, or are unaware you are doing so. Much in that later category. LOL, this country is set up to support private profit, and I assure you your tax dollars are going there.  I could offer you many examples of this, but I'll choose one.

    In my state, repeatedly, taxes have been added to certain products and places to help pay for this or that sports arena for a team that is owned by a corporation. In this case, unless you plan on not going to any city restaurants within the parameters of making a profit on a bigger and better sports team, and buying no products that have been targeted for this tax, then you ARE supporting a corporation with your taxes.

    Your dealings with corporations are never at the "arm's length" you think they are. In fact, I would suggest that corporations are influencing things much more than the government.

    So while it is true that corporations can't do the things you listed above, they CAN and DO influence others to.

    Finally, they are not YOUR public servants, they are everyone's public servants. Even those we disagree with. and there's the rub.

    "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

    by StellaRay on Thu Aug 22, 2013 at 05:27:37 PM PDT

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    •  " they are not YOUR public servants" (2+ / 0-)
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      Tortmaster, kharma

      They are OUR public servants; and they have a mandate to serve OUR needs, not the needs of 1%.  OUR taxes pay their salaries, they answer to us.  It's not like there's any real debate about the basic necessities of the people who live here.  There's a relatively objective standard for them to live up to - and they're really NOT doing the job.

      Fiat justitia ruat caelum "Let justice be done though the heavens fall."

      by bobdevo on Thu Aug 22, 2013 at 06:24:21 PM PDT

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      •  Even under that 1%, (2+ / 0-)
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        Tortmaster, WB Reeves

        there is much disagreement about what "our needs" are. And I'm just not going to argue anything so obvious with you.

        And then this:

        it's not like there's any real debate about the basic necessities of the people who live here.
        Not any real debate?! SIGH. All I can think is where have you been? There's a TON OF DEBATE about "the basic necessities" a democracy owes its citizens. Your idea that there's a "relatively objective standard for us to live up to" is not something I've experienced in this world, most of the time.

        I find I often have to fight for what I believe in, in my political, marital, family, friend and business relationships. And that involves a lot more than just saying what I believe in, over and over again. It involves listening to others in my life, and finding common ground where we can.  

        Look, we don't have to agree here and I don't think we're going to. We've both had our says, so maybe it's time to move on, at least for me.

        Although, in no way do I mean to suggest that I should have the last word. I give that to you, and promise I will read it.

        "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

        by StellaRay on Thu Aug 22, 2013 at 07:05:03 PM PDT

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