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  •  " they are not YOUR public servants" (2+ / 0-)
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    Tortmaster, kharma

    They are OUR public servants; and they have a mandate to serve OUR needs, not the needs of 1%.  OUR taxes pay their salaries, they answer to us.  It's not like there's any real debate about the basic necessities of the people who live here.  There's a relatively objective standard for them to live up to - and they're really NOT doing the job.

    Fiat justitia ruat caelum "Let justice be done though the heavens fall."

    by bobdevo on Thu Aug 22, 2013 at 06:24:21 PM PDT

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    •  Even under that 1%, (2+ / 0-)
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      Tortmaster, WB Reeves

      there is much disagreement about what "our needs" are. And I'm just not going to argue anything so obvious with you.

      And then this:

      it's not like there's any real debate about the basic necessities of the people who live here.
      Not any real debate?! SIGH. All I can think is where have you been? There's a TON OF DEBATE about "the basic necessities" a democracy owes its citizens. Your idea that there's a "relatively objective standard for us to live up to" is not something I've experienced in this world, most of the time.

      I find I often have to fight for what I believe in, in my political, marital, family, friend and business relationships. And that involves a lot more than just saying what I believe in, over and over again. It involves listening to others in my life, and finding common ground where we can.  

      Look, we don't have to agree here and I don't think we're going to. We've both had our says, so maybe it's time to move on, at least for me.

      Although, in no way do I mean to suggest that I should have the last word. I give that to you, and promise I will read it.

      "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

      by StellaRay on Thu Aug 22, 2013 at 07:05:03 PM PDT

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