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  •  I have supermice (6+ / 0-)

    These cute little guys have uploaded two trashcans worth of seeds, cotton, and fiberglass insulation to the ceiling of my sauna

    Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

    by rktect on Thu Aug 22, 2013 at 01:59:25 PM PDT

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    •  Aaaiiiieeeee! (3+ / 0-)
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      cosette, wa ma, caul

      Like Monsanto's wheat, and Fukushima's nuclear genie, these mice are already loose in the world!

      "The rule of the wise must be absolute . . . rulers ought not to be responsible to the unwise subjects." ~ Professor Leo Strauss

      by antifa on Thu Aug 22, 2013 at 02:22:49 PM PDT

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    •  Do you actually feed and help these mice to (2+ / 0-)
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      survive?

      Not to be a drag by injecting a bit of reality here, but the mice in the picture are deer mice.  They can carry hantavirus, a potentially fatal disease.  Hantavirus is rare, but having deer mouse nests and dropings in human living spaces is not a good idea.

      •  It didn't sound like the mice had had support (1+ / 0-)
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        for what they were doing.



        Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

        by Wee Mama on Thu Aug 22, 2013 at 03:18:01 PM PDT

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        •  Recommended sloution - old fashioned mouse traps (2+ / 0-)
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          with a dab of peanut butter on them.  Works like a charm.  Forget about the newfangled traps; they look nice but don't actually catch any mice.  Just watch your fingers when setting or moving the traps.

          I had mice in my garage and caught three deer mice and one house mouse.  Haven't seen any for months.  

          In addition to potentially carrying hantavirus (the deer mice, don't think the house mouse does), they can also inhabit your car engine in cold weather to keep warm.  A few years ago, mice chewed up the wiring in my wife's car and cost us $1000.

      •  They carry lots of disease that's true (4+ / 0-)
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        Hantavirus is relatively rare in Maine, we are more concerned with ticks, lime disease, and of course the mess.

        Unfortunately I probably do feed the mice and help them to survive as I have a garden and an orchard, don't always rake up my grass clippings and hadn't opened the roof of the sauna since 1972.

        Their nest was very cozy maybe 6" deep by 144 square feet, but I used 8 1.2 % bleach after cleaning and vacuuming so I probably got things at least surface clean.
        I had to take off the roof and the roof sheathing to get access which turned into sort of a major project.

        The barn is probably much worse, and the house dates to 1825 so I find lots of evidence of rodents and other critters to include grey squirrels, bats, woodchucks, porcupines,  the occasional coyote, skunks, racoons, not to mention the wasps, hornets, various barn swallows, woodpeckers, wild turkey's and other claimants to my grounds.

        I put up a fence around the corn patch this year and haven't seen the deer in it yet but its still August.

        Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

        by rktect on Thu Aug 22, 2013 at 04:38:00 PM PDT

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        •  Wow! It sounds like you have a much more (2+ / 0-)
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          country oriented lifestyle than I do.  Can't get rid of all the animals in that environment, and who would want to.

          The bats, however, are definitely undesirables, as I'm sure you're aware, due to rabies.

          •  I sometimes draw the line at wasps and hornets (4+ / 0-)
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            never forget, antifa, Wee Mama, caul

            mice, rats, snakes in the house; don't mind the owls and woodpeckers in the barn, actually enjoy having most of the rest around, get excited when I see a weasel or bobcat, love red foxes despite where I am the foxes carry the rabies.

            Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

            by rktect on Thu Aug 22, 2013 at 05:16:24 PM PDT

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