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  •  Here is how a favor is returned. (30+ / 0-)

    Remember that time we ignored war crimes, and actual impeachable offenses for an administration.   Good times!

    The tent got so big it now stands for nothing.

    by Beelzebud on Sun Aug 25, 2013 at 10:05:20 AM PDT

    •  Indeed. Why take the supposed high road (7+ / 0-)

      when no one gives you credit for it, and instead just stabs you in the back?

      To tweet or not to tweet. I tweet therefore I am.

      by RadicalParrot on Sun Aug 25, 2013 at 10:17:19 AM PDT

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    •  You should welcome a Republican impeachment (13+ / 0-)

      attempt. It may be the final bit that blows the party to smithereens.  Such talk by the Republicans is stupid in the extreme.

      Actually attempting to impeach Obama?

      Beyond stupid.

      By a lot.

      LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

      by dinotrac on Sun Aug 25, 2013 at 10:31:15 AM PDT

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    •  We ignored 'em twice (20+ / 0-)

      because don't forget Reagan also committed impeachable offenses -- arms for hostages, violation of the Boland Amendment -- and the Democrats in their wisdom and mercy, thinking of the "greater good of the nation," let him walk.

      Ah, the Democrats and the greater good!  Good ol' Al Gore acceding to SCOTUS's coup, even though he not only won the popular vote but had clearly won Florida as well.

      You think any of this Republican crew would do anything like that?  McConnell?  Boehner?  Limbaugh?

      Makes me laugh.  A bitter, twisted laugh, that ends with me weeping for my country...

      The efforts to repeal Obamacare are the GOP Abort Obamacare Act. lynneinfla

      by litho on Sun Aug 25, 2013 at 10:31:17 AM PDT

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      •  And don't forget... (12+ / 0-)

        Nixon, should have gone to jail and sent a message to all politicians that they are not above the law.

        We can have democracy in this country, or we can have wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both. Louis Brandeis

        by Ohkwai on Sun Aug 25, 2013 at 11:04:17 AM PDT

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        •  9/11 was an impeachable offense (6+ / 0-)

          The utter disregard on the part of the Bush administration for the repeated warnings it was given about Al Qaeda represents the most grotesque instance of criminal negligence in this nation's history.  As such, it should have merited impeachment.  

          So too should the outing of Valerie Plame.

          The blatant lies leading to the Iraq War.  Not to mention the fact that the war itself violated international law.

          On the other hand, John Kerry looks French and Al Gore is fat now. So what do I know??????

          When you punch enough holes through steerage, the first-class cabins sink with the rest of the ship.

          by Roddy McCorley on Sun Aug 25, 2013 at 12:25:55 PM PDT

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        •  I'm too over-educated for my own good (1+ / 0-)
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          At the time, I thought, "Ford's trying to avoid that whole Caesar-at-the-Rubicon thing."

          Pompey and the Optimates hadn't given Caesar an out.  If he stayed in Gaul, he'd be hunted down as a rebel.  If he went back to Rome, he'd be put on trial and probably executed.

          The river Rubicon was the border between Gaul and Italy.  By crossing it with his army, Caesar would be at war with the Optimates.  "Alea iacta est," and all that.

          Like Ford would actually think such things.  It was a done deal when he became VP, a pardon for the presidency.

          Now I'm all in favor of locking up as many corrupt politicians as possible.  Man, have we got a lot of them!

          Tell me what to write. 'To know what is right and to do it are two different things.' - Chushingura, a tale of The Forty-Seven Ronin

          by rbird on Sun Aug 25, 2013 at 12:30:04 PM PDT

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      •  Gore was truly wrong to give up (1+ / 0-)
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    •  Dear Tom Coburn (5+ / 0-)

      What would YOU know about "impeachable offenses"?

      Ronnie of RayGun was both senile and presided over a presidency wherein Iran-Contra took place - to be fair, his VP who was formerly head of the CIA probably headed that one behind his back - but Ronnie should have resigned when his Alzheimer's was becoming apparent.  I can't have been the only one who noticed it when he started acting like my grandfather who was going senile at the same time.

      Bush the elder should never have been elected president, and he had his own little foray into Iraq to protect his and his oil cronies' interests there.  Wrong move to use a public military paid for with our tax dollars to protect private commercial interests (which was also behind Dumbya's invasion).  Plus, I doubt anyone ever investigated the elder's role in Iran-Contra and the extent to which he may have run the country when Ronnie was going senile.

      Then there was Dumbya and Dickie, both of whom should have been impeached.  Somewhere online is likely a leftover list of lies and crimes numbering over a thousand at one point (Dennis Kucinich listed a bunch of them when he used a personal resolution the first time to impeach Dumbya and spoke over four hours).  But you all in Congress did NOTHING to impeach a lying war criminal who authorized torture (torture! - and you stood mute and applauded him and paid for his misadventures based on lies in Afghanistan and Iraq and authorized new buildings to be built at Gitmo)... isn't that right, Nancy-impeachment-is-off-the-table Pelosi and John Conyers who followed her orders...???

      Obama's sin/crime is in following the same policies and retaining the same Repuke reichwingnut advisers and heads of departments as Dumbya, so Obama's an accessory; the illegal and unconstitutional use of drones to the extent he's done is all on Obama's shoulders.  He also tries to criminalize whistleblowers when they try to help us, and that's just wrong on so many levels.  Mostly Obama's a tool of the reichwingnuts because he wants to be seen as a bipartisan compromiser and he's in love with his own PR on that image because he kowtows to every criticism Dickie or his daughter yap about, and he caves to Boner every time because he's an enabler of the reichwingnuts.  Oh, he's given us a few victories now and then (Ledbetter, gays serving openly in the military, gay marriage), just no big victories that would save us a bundle of money and stop the infernal borrowing to commit war crimes (like closing Gitmo, ending the wars and occupations in Afghanistan and Iraq, or a sensible not-for-profit single-payer medical insurance).

      So, Tommy Tinker, you miserable little racist worm, if you couldn't impeach Dumbya and Dickie for their lies and war crimes, you got NO room to start the drumbeats to impeaching Obama (even though he's doing some of the same things Dumbya and Dickie did)..., so STFU!

      I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

      by NonnyO on Sun Aug 25, 2013 at 12:24:20 PM PDT

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      •  That point (2+ / 0-)
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        "Ronnie should have resigned when his Alzheimer's was becoming apparent."
        Was the pre-election debates.

        America, we can do better than this...

        by Randomfactor on Sun Aug 25, 2013 at 02:17:16 PM PDT

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        •  I know... but Media complied... (3+ / 0-)
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          ... and ignored his befuddlement because he knew how to distract them with bad jokes when he obviously had no comprehension what a question was about even.  As a B-List [or D List, IMHO] actor he could get through a typed speech, so Moronic Media dubbed him a "communicator."

          It wasn't until Nancy whispered a simple answer to a simple question and he repeated it sometime during his second term at the ranch that was caught on microphones that most people had a clue.

          It was pathetically obvious during the Iran-Contra hearings, too, which I watched on commercial TV, beginning to end (back in those days networks still had some sort of standards and actually ran important things - sans commentary and commercials - while preempting regular programming).  When Ronnie got these befuddled and fuzzy looks on his face to some questions and said he didn't remember or didn't know, I figured out right away that Bush the elder had set it up with his CIA connections and was probably running the country behind everyone's back (no one will say now, of course, because they're the same old pals and buddies who were also in Dumbya's cabinet and department posts, and they're all corporate loyalists - the loyalist criminals can be tracked in administrations going clear back to Nixon and keep showing up in Repuke administrations).  When Ronnie of RayGun said he didn't know something, he meant it... he had either forgotten it, never comprehended it, or was never told anything by Georgie the elder.

          Or maybe I just noticed the senility earlier because of having seen senile befuddlement up close and personal and knew what it looked and sounded like, so I never excused it as something else.

          I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

          by NonnyO on Sun Aug 25, 2013 at 02:35:29 PM PDT

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