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  •  I'm not aware of anyone... (0+ / 0-)

    ...who would make a tolerable national leader if he or she felt she had unlimited power to do whatever he or she wanted.  Corruption makes people terrible leaders.  And absolute power corrupts absolutely.  

    I own a Barack Obama t-shirt.  f you had asked me if I thought Barack Obama would ever murder anyone with an automated drone, or let the government read our e-mail, or leave Bush's prisoners to rot in Gitmo on hunger strike, or let the DHS beat, arrest and pepper spray political protesters, or have whistle-blowers locked in jail and prosecuted as criminals, or signed a law to protect a company (Monsanto) from being accountable for the health effects of their genetically modified Frankenfood, I would've told you "NO WAY!  That's Bush stuff, Barack Obama is totally different, he's about hope and change!"  

    And I would've been totally, utterly, completely wrong.  :(

    My conclusion is, leaders can only be as good as the system that produces them.  If the system is corrupt, any leader that gets elected will be corrupt, no matter how pristine his image.  If the system is fair and has functional checks and balances, the leaders it produces will be similarly fair, or at the very least, appropriately restrained from doing ghastly amounts of harm to their own people and the people of other countries in the world.

    •  Okay, you what? (3+ / 0-)
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      phenry, AmazingBlaise, Matt Z

      Turn the damn shirt in if it makes you feel better.  But that is not a qualifier for being so desperate for wanting to prevail on an issue that you want an armageddon-like political solution -- as if that would even work anyway.

      I think you are a bit naive to how this world works.

      •  The world doesn't work! (0+ / 0-)

        That's the problem!  If it were just one issue, I wouldn't be here making this argument.  But it's been one thing after another after another since the early 2000's and maybe before, and people can't take it any more.  People are waking up and realizing that parties don't matter if people in power are breaking the law without feeling the consequences of their actions.  They need to feel the shame and the poverty and the pain and the torture they are inflicting on others, or it won't stop.  The planet's weather systems are coming apart, radiation and oil are spilling into the environment, forests are being cut down for profit, young people have no jobs and increasingly no education, and old people have no jobs and increasingly no retirement funds.  Meanwhile our politicians are doing things like beating the drums for a proxy war in Syria with Iran.  They're going to start World War III if they're not careful!  We cannot put up with these things any longer-- people are going to die!  Somebody has to stand up and say that "right" and "wrong" aren't equal to "Democrat" and "Republican" or the other way 'round, or indeed, any other affiliation.  If you do a crime, you should have to do the time, and it doesn't matter if you're a Wall Street banker or the President.  And if you think that's naive, fine, but if you think we can have a stable society without law, order, and accountability at the top, I think you've been seriously  misinformed.

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