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  •  Good analogy. (2+ / 0-)
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    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    Who is twigg?

    by twigg on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 05:01:22 AM PDT

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    •  Good analogy? Idiotic analogy. (1+ / 0-)
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      The issue of a mass surveillance state that gives unchecked power to a handful of people is liken to desert?

      Our civil rights, which is what the mass surveillance issue falls under, are the very foundation of our system of government.

      If you're comparing them to things we eat, they are water. And this criminal violation of our rights is liken to the poisoning of it.

      •  NSA is coffee, it keeps us up at night. EOM (6+ / 0-)

        We are all in this together.

        by htowngenie on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 07:03:09 AM PDT

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      •  HARF! (3+ / 0-)
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        If you're comparing them to things we eat, they are water.
        Oh please.

        We've all spent a weekend in a zero privacy situation- summer camps, family vacations, long car trips.

        Now spend a weekend without water.

      •  If wondering next how one is going to (4+ / 0-)
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        feed her family next week and how she'll afford her daughter's medication is a concern and she's wondering if her kids will ever be able to break through the rut she's been grinding through AND it has been a constant concern for the last 3 years, then YES the NSA issue is dessert.

        The food analogy is not only good, but it is highly ironic.

        But we've each got our own sense of priorities and opinions about priorities.

        Also those of us, like you, who are highly concerned about civil rights sometimes think that voter rights are more urgent than surveillance for a couple of reasons:

        1) As foundations go, our right to vote is a cornerstone for citizens to make progress on all other issues, including state surveillance.

        2) The impact of voter discrimination widely impacts people in tangible ways right now.  It brings a higher sense of urgency for some.  For example if one day I "open the paper" and read about a US citizen who was seriously abused and harmed by existing surveillance, I will elevate the issue higher on my list.

        I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

        by Satya1 on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 08:54:16 AM PDT

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