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  •  The problem with that is that if things (5+ / 0-)

    like climate change, and civil rights, and human rights, and legal accountability for torture aren't addressed during the election then the winners can just say that they don't have a mandate on those issues and therefore they will not do anything about them.

                       Standing for justice and accountability,
                                     For Dan,
                                     Heather

    Torture is ALWAYS wrong, no matter who is inflicting it on whom.

    by Chacounne on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 07:31:00 AM PDT

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    •  They say what they like anyway (0+ / 0-)

      once they are elected.

      John Boehner and his crowd were elected in the House on a promise of jobs.

      How many jobs bills have they produced.

      Picking the candidates who have the right qualities is a primary process.

      I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
      but I fear we will remain Democrats.

      Who is twigg?

      by twigg on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 08:24:22 AM PDT

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      •  So let me get this straight : (5+ / 0-)

        1) We weren't allowed to talk about legal accountability for torture in 2009, when the President was newly in office, because he had so much else on his plate and we needed to give him time.

        2) We weren't allowed to talk about legal accountability for torture during the 2010 election season, because there were important things to talk about and it would possibly end up getting Republicans elected.

        3) We weren't allowed to talk about legal accountability for torture during 2011 and 2012, because we might get Mitt Romney elected.

        4) You are now saying we cannot talk about legal accountability for torture during the 2014 election season because it might end up getting Republicans elected.

        WHEN exactly ARE we allowed to address this VERY important issue ?

                Standing for justice and accountability,
                                   For Dan,
                                   Heather

        Torture is ALWAYS wrong, no matter who is inflicting it on whom.

        by Chacounne on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 09:08:04 AM PDT

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        •  Nope. (1+ / 0-)
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          Sylv

          Not what I am saying at all.

          We did talk about it, and we should continue to do so.

          Pointing out what the priorities are to the electorate is just a reminder. It is not a prescription.

          I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
          but I fear we will remain Democrats.

          Who is twigg?

          by twigg on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 09:12:10 AM PDT

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          •  Actually, no, following the 2008 election, (1+ / 0-)
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            we haven't talked about it, or pushed for it to happen, nearly enough, and yes, those of us who care about the issue have been told not to talk about it repeatedly because of different election cycles. I had hoped that this would not continue, but this is how it starts, being told that the public doesn't care about it. Then, as the election gets closer we will again be told that it's too important to elect Democrats to push on this issue and risk the election.

                       Standing for justice and accountability,
                                        For Dan,
                                        Heather

            Torture is ALWAYS wrong, no matter who is inflicting it on whom.

            by Chacounne on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 10:14:11 AM PDT

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