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  •  you deserve a thoughtful answer (8+ / 0-)

    to which I will probably not be able to respond until much later today.  Our freshman are arriving and as of 15 minutes from now I have to be on duty and I am still making copies, setting things up and trying to finish my morning coffee.  Later, I promise.

    "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

    by teacherken on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 03:52:33 AM PDT

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    •  How can we as citizens support a government (10+ / 0-)

      we can neither trust nor honor? What do we do as human beings to live with love among and for ourselves?

      The whole farce of Obama and Cameron invoking chemical weapons as a rationale to attack a country with which we have no direct conflict is so baldly riffed off of Dubya and Blair as to be ridiculous if it were so maddeningly arrogant and stupid.

      "A popular government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy, or perhaps both." - James Madison, 1822

      by Superskepticalman on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 04:25:22 AM PDT

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      •  The apparent consensus that US should get involved (7+ / 0-)

        shows how extreme the hubris has gotten.  Back in the distant mists of 2008, I thought I saw a consensus starting to develop that there needed to be a major rethinking of the application of force abroad.  Like so many things from that time, those hopes of mine proved to be ill-founded.

        The MIC hasn't missed a step in the past 4+ years, and the Security Industrial Complex has, if anything, grown more powerful in that period.  Those sad facts raise serious questions about the reformability of our system.

        Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

        by RFK Lives on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 06:48:48 AM PDT

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      •  The owner of the cruise missile factory (2+ / 0-)
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        has been wanting to buy a new yacht.  He promised to get an extra one to leave hanging around for the intelligence crews to go deep sea fishing on, and yet another one for a few crucial "trusted political advisers" to use for outings with their families.

        If only  his orders could increase above "peace time levels" he could take easily care of everyone.

        ^ Totally fabricated ^, but easily believable.

        Our decision-making has less to do with ... real foreign policy, ideals, standards, or whatever, than it does with profits and venture capitalists concerns. Those are always paramount.

        Our "moral authority" to act on anything, let alone bombing another nation which is zero threat to us is ... well, let's say "lacking."

        "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

        by YucatanMan on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 08:43:08 AM PDT

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    •  My son's 10th grade AP World History teacher (3+ / 0-)
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      Told his class that weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq. She also told them to listen to Lars Larsen.

      "Pulling together is the aim of despotism and tyranny. Free men pull in all kinds of directions.” --Lord Vetinari

      by voracious on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 08:06:30 AM PDT

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