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  •  Okay Crazy,... (0+ / 0-)

    is there a limit?  Two things should be made clear;

    If we are saying that it is acceptable for us to spy on other countries, why is it not acceptable them to spy on us?  If we are supposed to be okay with our country tapping their phones and tapping out phones as well, does that mean it is okay for our country to hire other citizens from around the world to spy on their own countries?  Isn't that their security agencies' job to spy on us?  Then if it is okay then why couldn't Russia or China hire Snowden to spy on us (assuming the worst that Snowden is a hired spy)?  Isn't turnabout fair play?

    and two, who is the bigest threat to involve europe into their next war?  Wasn't it the United States on faulty intelligence it should have known was faulty responsible for getting half of europe fighting in this war on terror?  Don't they have a right to:

    prevent real wars is to have intel that keeps the US (them) ahead of their (our) next move.

    "Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not YET sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favour..."

    by Buckeye Nut Schell on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 01:45:56 PM PDT

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    •  It is acceptable that they try to spy on us... (0+ / 0-)

      Just as it's acceptable for the US Government to try and stop them from spying on us.  

      Yes they could try to hire Snowden - that's why the penalty for treason is death.  

      “I will be far more aggressive in my reporting from now. I am going to publish many more documents. I have many more documents on England’s spy system. I think they will be sorry for what they did.” -G.Greenwald

      by Jacoby Jonze on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 02:16:42 PM PDT

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      •  So, it is okay if they do it... (2+ / 0-)
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        but we should kill anybody who participates in it.

        And it is acceptable if we do it to them but I guess it is okay if they kill our spies as well.

        I guess I am confused about your definition of acceptable...

        How about this.  We shouldn't spy on our friends and they shouldn't spy on us.  We shouldn't do things like start wars with countries under false pretenses and they shouldn't do that either.

        I read somewhere in a book about treating others as I would like to be treated.  Some kind of precious metal rule or something.  (For you secularists out there, Immanuel Kant had some kind of catagorical suggestion or something like that).

        "Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not YET sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favour..."

        by Buckeye Nut Schell on Mon Aug 26, 2013 at 03:45:58 PM PDT

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