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  •  I'd say the 18 vs 14 is worthy of LWOP too (0+ / 0-)

    adult vs child. Senior vs. freshman. The power-play is there.

    LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

    by BlackSheep1 on Tue Aug 27, 2013 at 12:00:24 PM PDT

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    •  If this is the case I'm thinking about (7+ / 0-)

      the two had been together for while, and the older one got hammered by the younger one's parents as soon as she turned 18.  I'm not even sure if there was actual sexual activity (there may have been), it was just that they were a same sex couple that set the parents off.  And I don't think the younger one was as young as 14 either... But I'm going from memory so maybe she was.

      In any case, there's a difference between a 49-yo man starting a thing with a 14-yo student and two teenagers dating and then one of them has a magical birthday.  Maybe not by legal definition, but n any real sense it doesn't pass the laugh test.

      I'll believe corporations are people when one comes home from Afghanistan in a body bag.

      by mojo11 on Tue Aug 27, 2013 at 12:30:54 PM PDT

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    •  wait what?! (3+ / 0-)
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      I agree with Adam that some punishment is worthy for the 18 year old/14 year old case...but LWOP?

      Have you lost your mind?

      •  No. Predatory behavior is predatory behavior. (2+ / 0-)
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        You want marriage equality? You want nondiscrimination?
        Treat all predators the same, insofar as possible.

         The Steubenville perps ought to hang, IMNVHO, because not only did they drug a child and rape her, they then made a public carnival out of their perversions.  In other words, what they did wasn't heinous enough to suit them: they had to turn their degradation of a girl -- someone's daughter -- into a carnival.

        Set examples to prove that such behavior WILL NOT BE TOLERATED, or have endless repetitions of that depravity. You choose.

        LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

        by BlackSheep1 on Tue Aug 27, 2013 at 02:35:51 PM PDT

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        •  Absurd (4+ / 0-)

          and my feelings have nothing whatsoever with the genders of the parties involved - I feel the same way about straight couples.

          It's perfectly normal for teenagers within about 3-5 years of each other to date and have sex. That may not necessarily be what their parents would want for them, but it's not abuse. It's not rape. It's not in any way at all comparable to rape. Many if not most states have specific exceptions in place to acknowledge this fact.

          Treating consensual sex between teenagers as rape is not only patently absurd and destructive; it's also offensive to actual rape survivors.

          "Let’s just move on, treat everybody with firmness, fairness, dignity, compassion and respect. Let’s be Marines." - Sgt. Maj Michael Barrett on DADT repeal

          by kyril on Tue Aug 27, 2013 at 10:43:08 PM PDT

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        •  except (1+ / 0-)
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          studies clearly show that extreme punishments do not in fact aid deterrence either general deterrence or specific deterrence so other than sounding tough it does nothing and in fact does a lot more harm than good.

          And since I don't support the DP period, i dont agree that the Steubenville folks should be hanged.

          Now, i do think they should go away for a long long long time because their crime was especially heinous.

          •  when they get out they'll do it again (0+ / 0-)

            if they're not more than 80 years old apiece by then.

            Rapists don't quit.

            LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

            by BlackSheep1 on Wed Aug 28, 2013 at 12:24:12 PM PDT

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            •  so (0+ / 0-)

              the 24 year old or the 18 year old are all pedophiles who will do it again when they get out?

              All rapists will always and forever rape if they've commit that offense, whether statutory or forcible, one time?

              Wow.

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