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  •  FedEx drivers will become employees soon (19+ / 0-)

    The IRS never likes to see workers listed as independent contractors when they act like employees. For the life of me, I never knew how FedEx was able to classify the ground drivers as ICs. They simply performed too many employee like tasks to be ICs. Finally, the courts are beginning to agree with me.

    The United States District Court for the District of Massachusetts recently ruled that FedEx Ground Package System, Inc. had misclassified a group of former pick-up and delivery drivers as independent contractors instead of employees under the Massachusetts Wage Laws.

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    by bobinson on Tue Aug 27, 2013 at 02:42:37 PM PDT

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    •  As long as the drivers are incorporated (0+ / 0-)

      or work for a subcontracting company, this can go on indefinitely.

      Because at that point, it's a business to business transaction.

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      by sacrelicious on Tue Aug 27, 2013 at 05:00:45 PM PDT

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      •  Not quite true (4+ / 0-)
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        Lujane, ZenTrainer, Miggles, bobinson

        There are a certain set of tests that determine if a worker can be classified as an independent contractor.    If you fail those tests, you are NOT an IC, regardless of what your contract says.

        Here is a list of 20 questions, and the answers that indicate you are an IC and not an employee.    There is no hard/fast rule about how many of these can be "wrong" and still be an IC, but it gives you a good idea of the reqmnts.

        Are you required to comply with instructions about when, where, and how the
        work is to be done? (No.)
        2. Does your client provide you with training to enable you to perform a job in a
        particular method or manner? (No.)
        3. Are the services you provide integrated into your client's business operation?
        4. Must the services be rendered by you personally? (No.)
        5. Do you have the capability to hire, supervise, or pay assistants to help you in
        performing the services under contract? (Yes.)
        6. Is the relationship between you and the person or company you perform services
        for a continuing relationship? (No.)
        7. Who sets the hours of work? (You do.)
        8. Are you required to devote your full time to the person or company you perform
        services for? (No.)
        9. Is the work performed at the place of business of the potential employer? (No.)
        10. Who directs the order or sequence in which the work must be done? (You do.)
        11. Are you required to provide regular written or oral reports to your client? (No.)
        12. What is the method of payment — hourly, commission or by the job?
        (Contingency or project milestone-based payments are ideal.)
        13. Are your business and/or traveling expenses reimbursed? (No.)
        14. Who furnishes tools and materials used in providing services? (You do.)
        15. Do you have a significant investment in facilities used to perform services? (Yes.
        The more substantial your investment, the better.)
        16. Can you realize both a profit and a loss? (Yes.)
        17. Can you work for a number of firms at the same time? (Yes.)
        18. Do you make your services available to the general public? (Yes. It's a good idea
        to have a business listing in the phone book, for example.)
        19. Are you subject to dismissal for reasons other than nonperformance of contract
        specifications? (No. Also, your client should provide at least a week's notice. At
        will termination makes you look like an employee.)
        20. Can you terminate your relationship without incurring a liability for failure to
        complete a job? (Yes, assuming you're working on a time-and-materials basis. If
        you're working on a project, or milestone, basis, you are obligated to deliver on
        your commitments if you wish to be paid for your efforts.)

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        by bobtmn on Tue Aug 27, 2013 at 05:58:45 PM PDT

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