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  •  Drive me nuts... (3+ / 0-)
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    That Starbucks tries to be so socially responsible...

    Because they devoured up all the local cafes of the world and replaced them shops that sell caffeinated sugar water they call espresso drinks...

    I can't stand their various espressos, they have slandered the name of a macchiato, abused the notion of a mocha, and I'm not even sure if there IS coffee in their lattes...

    BUT they insist on doing right by their workforce (as compared to competitors), and they insist on selling beans farmers actually get paid for... and they've even tried to keep the last American ceramic coffee cup maker alive (and I bought one of those cups at their flagship store in Seattle... but... its low quality and cracked the enamel within weeks of getting it home)...

    I'm so conflicted over these guys... :)

    I just wish they could serve me a real espresso drink for once... and not make me feel like I'm a jerk holding up the fast-food line for wanting to sit in their shops and chat with friends...

    The roaches always win if you turn out the lights.

    by Jyotai on Tue Aug 27, 2013 at 03:54:28 PM PDT

    •  omg...we're, like, twins! (1+ / 0-)
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      i despise starbucks for the way they've ruined coffee.

      Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

      by Cedwyn on Tue Aug 27, 2013 at 04:27:36 PM PDT

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    •  Move to Brooklyn (2+ / 0-)
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      There's small micro-roastery boutiques every 10 blocks, and even Starbucks can't put them out of business. My favorite being Cafe Deluxe.

    •  No, they haven't (0+ / 0-)

      I lived in Seattle, birthplace of Starbucks, for 10 years, and I can promise you that there are many more local cafes than all the Starbucks combined. They put mediocre or poorly-run cafes out of business. If anything there are more high-quality cafes around now than before Starbucks came on the scene.

      If you don't like Starbucks, don't got there. Plenty of other options around.

      •  cappuccino was never meant (0+ / 0-)

        to be a 20-oz drink.  for that alone, starbucks deserves nothing but scorn.

        Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

        by Cedwyn on Wed Aug 28, 2013 at 04:58:24 AM PDT

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        •  That's just silly (0+ / 0-)

          There's no "meant". We're not talking about the Seven Sacraments. This is coffee. I've had good mega-sized lattes in cafes other than Starbucks before they were this big. It's quite common to have this for breakfast in France.

          It's just a cafe, not Walmart.

          •  you do realize (0+ / 0-)

            that a shot of espresso is, like, 1 oz, right?  

            i stand by it:  cappuccino was never meant to be a 20-oz drink, just as cheesecake was never meant to be diet food.

            Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

            by Cedwyn on Wed Aug 28, 2013 at 01:36:58 PM PDT

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            •  A latte isn't a cappuccino (0+ / 0-)

              The latter is generally a dessert beverage and around 6oz, while the latter generally a breakfast beverage and more like 12oz. Starbucks didn't invent this. The French did, although they call it cafe au lait.

              Obviously Starbucks isn't a traditional French or Italian cafe. If you want that, there are plenty to choose from all over the US. It's an American-style cafe, and like everything American, things are bigger there.

              And cheesecake is absolutely a diet food, if avoided while dieting.

              •  of course a latte is not a cappuccino (0+ / 0-)

                we weren't talking about lattes, but cappuccinos, which were never meant to be 20-oz drinks.

                LOL @ cheesecake comment

                Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

                by Cedwyn on Wed Aug 28, 2013 at 04:23:51 PM PDT

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                •  I rarely hear people order cappuccinos (1+ / 0-)
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                  at Starbucks. Usually it's lattes or frapuccinos. Although, if they came out with a cheesecake cappuccino, I bet it would sell like crazy. Myself, I almost always get a tall (12oz) coffee, plus free refills. I don't go there for the coffee so much as to get out and do some work. There are better places to get coffee.

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