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  •  well I actually am fairly sure... (5+ / 0-)

    ...that gas was used by Assad forces and even if Assad didn't order it, it is rather heinous and he probably shouldn't even have these gasses.  That said why does the US always have to be the one to act.  It would seem to me theses gasses are much more of a threat to the regional countries since lack of delivery systems might limit the likelihood we would get attacked by Assad. et them take the lead.  If it is a worldwide moral outrage let them at least have the responsibility for the blowback.

    We Glory in war, in the shedding of human blood. What fools we are.

    by delver rootnose on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 08:45:09 PM PDT

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    •  Saudi Arabia (4+ / 0-)
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      JeffW, franklyn, Not A Bot, dinotrac

      Yes, why isn't Saudi Arabia using its own military to stop Assad from gassing fellow Sunni Muslims? Instead of letting Israel get the props from Allah.

      "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

      by DocGonzo on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 09:33:51 PM PDT

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      •  The House of Saud is concerned about one thing ... (4+ / 0-)
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        ... maintaining oil prices at high levels, and retaining their grip on power in their own land.  Okay, that's two things.  They don't care if the rest of the Middle East burns to bare sand, people and all -- compassion is not integral to their philosophy.

        Romae in die non combureretur.

        by Not A Bot on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 10:21:18 PM PDT

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        •  That's the Reason (0+ / 0-)

          Saudi Arabia's airforce bombing Syria's military would drive oil prices even higher than they've been on speculation the US would do it. And of course stopping a chemical war on their Sunni sect by a proxy for their existential enemies in Iran (which has SA surrounded, by Iran + Syria) means retaining their power grip, not to mention having the "policeman" role there that could put down the jihadists among the rebels that threaten the Sauds next.

          No compassion required, nor expected. It is precisely the Saudi military that fits this bill, if any does.

          "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

          by DocGonzo on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 09:18:21 AM PDT

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      •  FWIW: Saudi Arabia closely supports the rebels (3+ / 0-)
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        They are probably the main backers.

        •  Exactly (0+ / 0-)

          So they should put their actual asses, not just their secret foreign meddling budgets, on the line. They have a military that could do this job just as well. And indeed Iran is their actual direct rival. Iran is the US rival because it is the Sauds' rival.

          "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - HST

          by DocGonzo on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 09:11:19 AM PDT

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