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  •  So, the converse of your argument is that (1+ / 0-)
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    it would be alright if Assad had those people killed with bombs?

    You think that makes sense?

    If you ask me, this entire fucking conversation about the type of weapons used is insane.

    If you don't want someone killing innocent people, then it shouldn't matter how they did it.

    Am I missing something?

    "If you don't sin, then Jesus died for nothing!" (on a sign at a Mardi Gras parade in New Orleans)

    by ranger995 on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 09:57:33 PM PDT

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    •  I think we're on the same page... (0+ / 0-)

      ...with the exception of this: why limit it to war and weapons? If "death is death", that cuts both ways. Weapons, stupidity, policy, illness...if "death is death" we've got a lot more to account for, and a lot more to do, than we're doing.

      On this particular issue, if Assad had killed that many people with bullets, we wouldn't be entrapped by this WMD/Iraq War narrative. It's an odd confluence of opinions. If WMD is mentioned we dismiss death in the name of respecting death as an equalizing factor.

      But, of course, the leading causes of preventable death is not warfare of any sort.

      it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

      by Addison on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 10:04:59 PM PDT

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      •  Um, Assad has killed way more than 1500 (0+ / 0-)

        people with bullets (or whatever the number is supposed to be today.)   So have the rebels.

      •  But he's killed way more people with bullets (1+ / 0-)
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        and bombs. I didn't say death is death or anything else like that. I think the entirety of the conversation is completely absurd.

        It's fucking bizarro world.

        Now you want to talk about preventable deaths not related to warfare, like cancer or something? WTF??? As far as I know, no one's purposely giving other people cancer or heart disease.

        We don't bomb countries because their diets are high in cholesterol.

        We just might be bombing someone because they used chemical weapons. So, the discussion here in bizarro world has turned away from the possibility of U.S. intervention into some fucking insane debate about what's more horrible. How about making a list of the most awful ways to die, from worst to best and we can discuss the details?

        "If you don't sin, then Jesus died for nothing!" (on a sign at a Mardi Gras parade in New Orleans)

        by ranger995 on Fri Aug 30, 2013 at 10:18:41 PM PDT

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