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  •  Now list all of the Iraqi dead because of us. (5+ / 0-)

    That's a far longer list. But questionably delivered chemical munitions keep you up?

    •  Yes (0+ / 0-)

      I know about the deaths in Iraq. I hear Riverbend when she says, "We learned that while life is not fair, death is even less fair- it takes the good people. Even in death you can be unlucky. Lucky ones die a ‘normal’ death… A familiar death of cancer, or a heart-attack, or stroke. Unlucky ones have to be collected in bits and pieces. Their families trying to bury what can be salvaged and scraped off of streets that have seen so much blood, it is a wonder they are not red.

      But that does not excuse gassing people. Are you saying that because Bush got us involved in an immoral law, we can not react to crimes against humanity? Or is it just Arab lives. Or African lives? Central American lives?

      At least be outraged that chemical weapons were used!!!!!

      Let us both hope that the red line does not reach our neighborhoods.

      [Sorry that was kind a preachy.]

      “We can always count on the Americans to do the right thing, after they have exhausted all the other possibilities.” - Winston Chuchill

      by se portland on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 02:15:26 PM PDT

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      •  No (2+ / 0-)
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        But that does not excuse gassing people
        And Saddam was amassing weapons of mass destruction. Your lack of skepticism where it is warranted is precious.
        Are you saying that because Bush got us involved in an immoral law, we can not react to crimes against humanity?
        Hooray for straw man fallacies! When you can't argue my words, ask if I accept your clearly false interpretation!
        Or is it just Arab lives. Or African lives? Central American lives?
        Hooray for knowingly false red herring fallacies of racist intent!
        Let us both hope that the red line does not reach our neighborhoods.
        •  atropine (0+ / 0-)

          Seriously, no outrage?

          For some reason I trust Doctors Without Borders. I really don't think they are producing propaganda posters like your WWI example.

          Why are they asking for atropine if there was not a real need?

          I am thinking they are trying to save lives, and they really don't care who killed them.

          Brussels/New York, August 24, 2013 -- Three hospitals in Syria's Damascus governorate that are supported by the international medical humanitarian organization Doctors Without Borders Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) have reported to MSF that they received approximately 3,600 patients displaying neurotoxic symptoms in less than three hours on the morning of Wednesday, August 21, 2013. Of those patients, 355 reportedly died.

          Since 2012, MSF has built a strong and reliable collaboration with medical networks, hospitals and medical points in the Damascus governorate, and has been providing them with drugs, medical equipment and technical support. Due to significant security risks, MSF staff members have not been able to access the facilities.

          “Medical staff working in these facilities provided detailed information to MSF doctors regarding large numbers of patients arriving with symptoms including convulsions, excess saliva, pinpoint pupils, blurred vision and respiratory distress,” said Dr. Bart Janssens, MSF director of operations.

          Patients were treated using MSF-supplied atropine, a drug used to treat neurotoxic symptoms. MSF is now trying to replenish the facilities’ empty stocks and provide additional medical supplies and guidance.

          - See more at: http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/...

          “We can always count on the Americans to do the right thing, after they have exhausted all the other possibilities.” - Winston Chuchill

          by se portland on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 04:47:42 PM PDT

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      •  I am outraged that chemical weapons were used (0+ / 0-)

        by the rebels.   Because it is very obvious that the rebels and NOT Assad used them.    

        •  Whoa (0+ / 0-)

          I thought we were the reality abased community. It is not obvious to me. Would be kind enough to provide me with evidence?

          “We can always count on the Americans to do the right thing, after they have exhausted all the other possibilities.” - Winston Chuchill

          by se portland on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 04:55:24 PM PDT

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          •  Could you provide evidence that Assad used them? (1+ / 0-)
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            Dont think so.  

            Here is why I am convinced the rebels did that: Assad was winning big time the last 3-4 weeks using conventional weapons.   He did not need to use chemicals.   But lets assume that Assad really wanted to use chemical weapons.   There is no way on earth that he would use them 1 day after the UN inspectors went in his country to investigate a previous incident.   No matter how terrible the Assad regime is, Assad is not suicidal or stupid.   He would never use chemical weapons with the UN inspectors for chemical weapons within his country.   He would have simply waited a couple of days until they were gone and then do it.   It makes much more sense that one of the various rebels groups used the chemical weapons against another group (they hate each other any way) and they did it in such way to incriminate Assad and provoke an intervention.

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