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  •  asdf (5+ / 0-)
    It's possible Keane has access to information unknown to us that help him to form his theory
    Sure, it's possible, but it's not definitive and it isn't proven. Ergo, it is theory.

    "Conspiracy Theory" as a phrase is a redundancy used as pejorative, designed to cast an unflattering light on ideas or the people putting such ideas forth. Yet the idea of calling things out as CT is done all the time around here, and on ideas with far more to support them than that messy spin diary from yesterday.

    So, y'know, the flip faux-witticism of your subject line in this particular thread was--sorry--just sort of pointless.  

    This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

    by lunachickie on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 11:58:43 AM PDT

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    •  You sound a bit like (3+ / 0-)

      Christian conservatives pooh-poohing evolution for being a "theory".

      I would reserve "conspiracy theory" for those theories whose basic thrust has been debunked, requiring deeper and more elaborate conspiracies to explain what is going on.  Even if he is wrong, Keane's theory does not rise to the level of what I would consider CT.

      •  (Pronoun) (adverb)(adjective) (2+ / 0-)
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        (insulting comparison) (faulty reasoning).

        Why is it that some of you continue to labor under the delusion that responses framed in such a way makes you look smarter than everyone else? It really doesn't.

        And even if this general is wrong, the "conventional definition" of "Conspiracy Theory" in today's sophist political lexicon is, at best, specious. I'm always happy to see who supports its continued incorrect usage and who does not.

        This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

        by lunachickie on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 01:04:26 PM PDT

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      •  You refer to previous "UN investigations" (2+ / 0-)
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        implicating the rebels in chemical attacks. That's highly misleading. One former UN commissioner, Rosa de la Ponte, has expressed the opinion the rebels must have been responsible-- but she is not speaking for the UN and presents no evidence to support her argument. She's pretty eccentric, too--she insisted Milosevic and Serbs were innocent victims of the Kosovars.

        Your willingness to seize upon this one opinion and misrepresent it as the conclusion of "UN investigations" at the least suggests an inclination towards wishful CT thinking.

        Incidentally, I can accept that it is far more likely the chemical attack was ordered by Maher al-Assad without concluding that we have no choice but to attack to punish the Assad regime. That's because I see no reason to expect such a punitive attack would accomplish nothing.

        The world is complicated, and matters are not always as we would wish them to be.

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