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  •  Some Democrats would actually support (1+ / 0-)
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    his impeachment in a scenario in which he directly violated the will of Congress and attacked a country.

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    by MichaelNY on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 03:02:33 PM PDT

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    •  I agree (2+ / 0-)
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      I wouldn't, but I both take a broad view of executive power and support military intervention in Syria, which I guess makes me a bad Democrat these days? IDK.

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      by SaoMagnifico on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 03:07:34 PM PDT

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      •  It most certainly does not (2+ / 0-)
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        Have you seen Michael Tomasky's latest at Daily Beast? I read it and thought of you. There are logical and genuine arguments to be made on all sides of this situation. Unfortunately for the president and the people in the line of fire in Syria you and I are clearly in the minority.

        "What do you mean "conspiracy"? Does that mean it's someone's imaginings and that the actual polls hovered right around the result?" - petral

        by conspiracy on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 03:27:24 PM PDT

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        •  Same boat - also have to say this hurts Obama (2+ / 0-)
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          if not so much domestically, definitely abroad. While I don't think his impending defeat in this vote will have much effect on the budget and debt ceiling negotiations I think it will be pretty catastrophic for his ability to represent the country's interests abroad. While this is bad enough on its own it seems the worst part of this will be that it makes an Israel-Iran war much more likely (paradoxically likely involving a much more active role for the US than would the limited strike in Syria).

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          by okiedem on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 03:35:39 PM PDT

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        •  Yep (1+ / 0-)
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          Unfortunately for the president and the people in the line of fire in Syria you and I are clearly in the minority.
          And I.

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          by wwmiv on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 03:49:08 PM PDT

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      •  you don't need a broad view of executive power (2+ / 0-)
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        to think the president doesn't at least initially need Congress to give him permission.

        ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

        by James Allen on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 03:34:47 PM PDT

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