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  •  "Civil disobedience" involves law-breaking (7+ / 0-)

    that's the whole point.  

    When you go on property where you legally don't have the right to be, you are trespassing.  If you refuse to leave when told to, you are subject to arrest.  

    If people were protesting on Wal-Mart's property -- such as in their store or in their parking lot, and they did not leave when a store manager or someone on behalf of Wal-Mart told them they should leave, they were trespassing and subject to arrest.

    It's ALWAYS been that way with civil disobedience.  You know, going in, that you are subject to arrest.  That's usually the whole point -- the arrest draws attention to some unjust law, for example.  (Rosa Parks knew going in she would be arrested for violating a law; that was the whole point, to draw attention to the unjust law.)

    That's why protesters need to be prepared to submit when arrested, so that there is no need for the police to use force to arrest them.  At the most, protesters should go limp, and have the police drag them off.  They should not resist arrest, because that sometimes escalates into some ugliness, with crowds throwing things at police who come to arrest them. That happens when protesters don't understand going in when they are breaking the law and subject to arrest, and resist.  (That's why police in situations where you have crowds of protesters sometimes wear riot gear.)  Of course, police sometimes over-react in these situations and use more force than necessary to conduct the arrests, and that's a bad situation as well.  If police come to arrest protesters, and the protesters don't resist, there should be no force necessary.  

    •  They were tresspassing? (2+ / 0-)
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      micsimov, venger

      Only one way to describe what the owners are doing: intimidation. Same as they did at OWS, in WTO incidents, in Wisconsin, etc. Game plan: police state.

      A true craftsman will meticulously construct the apparatus of his own demise.

      by onionjim on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 05:19:50 PM PDT

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