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  •  I predict possession of a single 9mm bullet (2+ / 0-)
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    LilithGardener, Joy of Fishes

    to be the new "flaking".

    Your speeding ticket mister minor-it-ee, has just become felony possession of a live round of ammunition.  All y'll step out of the car, hands on your head, anyone does anything and you get shot.
    I have another question, which is which of these will prevent this or this from happening?

    The country was in peril; he was jeopardizing his traditional rights of freedom and independence by daring to exercise them.” ~ Joseph Heller, Catch-22

    by 43north on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 04:51:23 AM PDT

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    •  I often stare at your comments ... (1+ / 0-)
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      ... trying to figure out what you are saying.   "flaking"?  Had to google that.

      And I couldn't wrap my head around someone just happening to have a bullet  in his pocket.  Then I remembered stories about people trying to go through security checkpoints with guns that they had forgotten were in their bags - recently happened in my area with someone trying to enter a courthouse.  So, ok, I get it that someone could be carrying a bullet in his pocket, bag, or car and not realize it was there.  And that could lead to questions about legal possession of the bullet.

      I assume you are referring to CA SB 53, which I had never heard of before last night:

      SB 53 (de León) – Ammunition Purchase Regulation
      SB 53 requires anyone wishing to purchase ammunition to first pass a complete background check and become authorized to purchase ammunition by DOJ. The bill requires that anyone selling ammunition must be licensed by DOJ and must submit information regarding any sale, including the buyer’s identification, to DOJ. DOJ will be able to crosscheck persons who acquired ammunition with the Prohibited Armed Persons File to determine illegally armed people buying ammunition. The bill also amends current law regarding handgun ammunition sales to apply to all ammunition. SB 53 will enable the tracking of who is selling and buying ammunition and provide an investigative tool to law enforcement. The bill will help keep ammunition out of the hands of potentially dangerous people prohibited from possessing firearms and ammunition.
      Now, to me, a background check for purchasing ammunition makes sense if there is a also a background check for legal possession of guns.  I don't like the "authorized" by DOJ part, unless that strictly means passing a background check based on objective and appealable criteria.  But for this your objection is a prediction that possession of one bullet will be a felony and that it will all be useless anyway because it doesn't prevent cops from killing people. That suggests you got nuttin, except it would be so uncharacteristic for you to not have substantial reasons for taking a position on something.  So, serious question - why do you think SB 53 isn't a good idea?

      (Thank you for stopping in.  I hope that you have been well and that you had a good season.)  

      •  flaking (1+ / 0-)
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        Joy of Fishes

        the deliberate planting of evidence.  Previously confined to the dropping of glassine envelopes of "flake".
        Minorities, DWB, are now "in-possession of a felony amount of  cocaine".

        Now you toss the car, make arrests, and remember to obtain another dime-bag of cocaine from your drop-stash.

        The new California gun and ammunition laws, could eliminate the "need" to keep confiscated drugs on your person, in order to further your career as a LEO with dozens of felony arrests per month.
        All minorities, and/or punk-ass white people who recite bullshit lines about Miranda, Warrants, and citing court cases:

        Really smart ass?  Well lookie lookie what I see, IN PLAIN VIEW, thus admissible. Cause for you to be out of the car and in handcuffs.  There better not be any other illegal items in this car...
        Therefore I see this as a crucial tool for Law Enforcement.
        Crucial to making Detective, Sergeant, or what have you.
        Something other than a shit job as patrolman, forever.

        The country was in peril; he was jeopardizing his traditional rights of freedom and independence by daring to exercise them.” ~ Joseph Heller, Catch-22

        by 43north on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 03:26:27 PM PDT

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        •  Hello 43north, (0+ / 0-)

          Thank you for clarifying.  I had completely misunderstood  your point.  I think there are several intertwining threads, and some of this is also pertinent to PavePusher’s comment below.  Would you weigh in there?

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