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  •  On track to job recovery by...2021. And worse. (4+ / 0-)
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    At 200,000 new jobs a month (a little better than this month's figure, but about average for the last 12 months), we'll be back to 2007 levels of employment by 2021. Plug in your own per-month number and see the recovery date here: http://www.hamiltonproject.org/...  

    Oh, and of course that doesn't even take into account that:

    * More of those jobs will be part-time than in 2007.

    * Even the full-time jobs will pay less.

    "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

    by HeyMikey on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 08:33:21 AM PDT

    •  And Unpaid Internships is the "New Jobs" (7+ / 0-)

      Increasingly college grads are not being offered jobs, but rather Unpaid Internships. My cynical mind tells me that Corps don't even plan on hiring these interns. But rather will "use" them for 6-12 months, then discard them and get new interns.

      And the Corrupt US Govt just winks and nods and lets it happen.


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      by CitizenOfEarth on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 09:19:56 AM PDT

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      •  It's illegal... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...for an unpaid intern to do anything of actual use to the organization.

        (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
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        by Sparhawk on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 09:57:02 AM PDT

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        •  Huh! Under what law? Or is this snark? (1+ / 0-)
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          •  It's true. But rarely enforced. (2+ / 0-)
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            A Supreme Court case from the 1940s prompted the Labor Department to lay out a six-part test employers must meet in order to have unpaid workers. (The DOL used to call them “trainees” but changed the language to “interns” in April 2010). Among the requirements: The internship has to be similar to training in a school, it has to be “for the benefit of the intern,” the intern doesn’t displace paid workers and the employer “derives no immediate advantage” from the intern’s activities. In other words, the internship’s goal is to train and teach the intern, rather than to provide free labor for the employer. If the employer doesn’t meet those six criteria, it is supposed to pay the intern minimum wage or better.
            http://www.forbes.com/...

            "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

            by HeyMikey on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 10:44:19 AM PDT

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            •  Does this also apply to those working on (1+ / 0-)
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              election campaigns?

              Interestingly, there is a $2600 dollar limit on giving funds to a Federal campaign, but a person could donate their time that may be worth multiples of this limit if they work for free.

              The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

              by nextstep on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 12:08:57 PM PDT

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              •  I'm not an expert, but... (0+ / 0-)

                I think volunteering is volunteering, regardless of anything else. Just my guess.

                The key, I'm guessing, is the "displacing paid workers" part. If you're a volunteer, you're at most displacing another unpaid volunteer. Thus you don't meet all 6 of the criteria requiring payment.

                "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

                by HeyMikey on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 01:39:33 PM PDT

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            •  A law unenforced is nonexistent law. n/t (0+ / 0-)

              Please save a child's life. www.signon.org/sign/sarasota-sheriffs-office

              by kmfmstar on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 06:07:00 PM PDT

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        •  No, it isn't. (1+ / 0-)
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          My daughter did a great deal of useful work at her internship this summer without getting paid.
            She did get college credits instead (which she doesn't need, and in fact had to pay for.)

          "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

          by elwior on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 11:06:05 AM PDT

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          •  Then that was illegal. (2+ / 0-)
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            My daughter did a great deal of useful work at her internship this summer without getting paid.
            I have no doubt you are correct. But it was still illegal. One of many illegal labor practices that nevertheless happen routinely here in the USA.

            See my other comment, "It's true. But rarely enforced."

            "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

            by HeyMikey on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 11:15:45 AM PDT

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