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  •  OK, bombs away (11+ / 0-)

    Let's suppose that our missiles succeed in "degrading" Assad's military capability so that he is worse off than before using them. I presume that you would agree that one result would be that an Assad victory would be made less likely. So, what next? A prolonged stalemate in which the slaughter grinds up what is left of the civilian population? A rebel victory? That would mean Somalia North and some truly nasty people seizing control of the chemical weapons now in storage.
         If you are serious about making sure that chemical weapons are not used in the future, you should support a massive American ground invasion to seize and secure the chemicals.  Do you? I don't.
         If you just want to punish Assad, keep in mind that he personally won't be the one the missiles kill. And any weaponry destroyed can be replaced by the Russians practically overnight. Unless, of course, you support a blockade of Syria and are willing to dare the Russians to violate it. Do you? I don't.
         Every war starts with noble intentions. A lot of wars begin in August or September, and everyone assumes the boys will be home for Christmas. Before pulling the trigger, every other avenue of response (many of which have been detailed in diaries, such as airdropping nerve gas antidote and gas masks) should be exhausted.

    "Something has gone very wrong with America, not just its economy, but its ability to function as a democratic nation. And it’s hard to see when or how that wrongness will get fixed." Paul Krugman and Robin Wells

    by Reston history guy on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 12:26:56 PM PDT

    •  "Every war starts with noble intentions. " (4+ / 0-)

      You sure about that?

      Sounds like a rhetorical bone-toss to me.  Statistically closer to the truth is the proposition that no war is started with noble intentions.

      Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

      by corvo on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 12:36:56 PM PDT

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      •  well (2+ / 0-)
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           When it comes to the people who actually make the decisions in the government, you may well be right. It is not quite so clear when it comes to the poor bastards going off to do the fighting and the dying.  I think of 1914, and millions of men marching off as women threw flowers and everyone cheered. The ordinary people, the ones who do the fighting and the dying, they go because they think it is their duty that they owe to their fellow countrymen and women. They may be wrong, but I don't think their intentions are ignoble. The politicians and military leaders, on the other hand.....

        "Something has gone very wrong with America, not just its economy, but its ability to function as a democratic nation. And it’s hard to see when or how that wrongness will get fixed." Paul Krugman and Robin Wells

        by Reston history guy on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 12:44:59 PM PDT

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        •  The "poor bastards" (1+ / 0-)
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          didn't start the war.  Although particularly in the case of World War I I have trouble feeling sorry for the "poor bastards," most of whom went jingoistically into battle expecting a glorious easy victory against the unspeakably perfidious and bestial foe.

          The anecdote about how a breastpocket copy of Also sprach Zarathustra didn't save young German Übermenschen from bullets was already a truism in 1915.

          Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

          by corvo on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 12:47:52 PM PDT

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      •  Rather terrifically put, corvo. (1+ / 0-)
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