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  •  my experience with 7 grade math - have Ph. D.; (15+ / 0-)

    what kids need

    what people need

    playing games without grounding

    I have a Ph. D. in math

    tutoring my grandson in 7 th grade math at the end of the year

    the text book first chapter is on the OH test

    each chapter has a section on the OH test at the end

    but, I couldn't understand how anyone could learn from the book

    the teacher didn't hand out the 1,000 page book, she handed out printed pages

    grandson missed fundamentals including the vocabulary so that he could use language along with his ... whatever

    his computation skills are terrible since they now use calculators

    and he is very bright and went down the drain with linear equations, slope intercept form, etc., etc. Several concepts and calculations all together

    what in the world would an average student do with this crap???

    •  That's what my dad told me when I was a kid. (6+ / 0-)

      I had an auditory processing disorder, though we didn't know it at the time. I couldn't learn from the oral instructions in class, and I relied on learning from books in most subjects. Since he has a phD in geochemistry and is pretty decent at math, he knew enough to tell me that the books weren't adequately showing the proofs, and they weren't something I could learn by. When I was failing calculus, we shopped long and hard for an outside book that was sufficient. My freaking textbook should have been decent enough that it was possible to learn something from it, don't you think? Textbooks ain't cheap. They should be serving a function if we're going to shell out the dough for them.

      •  that was why my college math professor xeroxed (4+ / 0-)

        the important parts ($15.00 worth, approx. 100 pages) and didn't require anyone to buy the book that technically was supposed to be for class but cost several hundred. It was hushed up because it was illegal for him to simply provide that, but it was a class in Algebra for the Real World, and that was not only an excellent example of his compassion for the budgets of alternative students, but also of how to save $$ by doing the math.

        We are all pupils in the eyes of God.

        by nuclear winter solstice on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 07:52:50 AM PDT

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      •  I have the same auditory disorder. It makes me a (0+ / 0-)

        better teacher because I write everything down.  I have conquered a lot of the problem with skilled and rapid note taking.  This is a perfect disorder that does not interfere with college learning especially in the STEM fields.

        •  I also had learning problems - write things down (1+ / 0-)
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          I was excellent at taking notes. Needed hands engaged.

          I often read another book than the textbook. A mental block with the text often.

          I spent a lot of time standing up at a black board at night

          and often studied with others

          The auditory problems mentioned above might be a phoneme processing problem

          26 letters and about 46 phonemes. They are not visible in English and can lead to many hidden language problems.

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