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  •  The test questions for ELA 8th Grade are (10+ / 0-)

    too long in the linked .pdf -- it's incredibly difficult to read long passages on a computer screen due to the scrolling effect. And then, the answers are entirely subjective and deeply culturally bound. If you ask a student, for example, what "an author would most agree with," to use the first question, that is not a "right or wrong" question to ask. There is no right answer. There's only a student's own potential cultural affiliation with the author they suspect wrote the question.

    Personally, I have personally written test material for a higher level, and we do NOT use these kinds of subjective questions in multiple-choice formate; we always use these with interpretative responses that are written to see the LOGIC BY WHICH a student answers the question.

    The questions presented in that exam are so useless as to be profoundly bad. Any English teacher, and certainly any English Professor, would immediately recognize that you can't answer a subjective interpretive question via multiple choice material ESPECIALLY when the test answers are wildly culturally contingent.

    This test, and I didn't bother looking at the others, should be shelved at the bottom of the sea as far as I'm concerned.

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    by mahakali overdrive on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 08:00:28 PM PDT

    •  Yes, yes, yes! You expressed well what I was (4+ / 0-)

      trying to say in my comment about the 8th grade ELA test.  "The answers are entirely subjective and deeply culturally bound", along with the absurdity-- or at least confusion-- of saying that there is only one correct answer to "which would the author most agree with".

      And it goes on and on.  

      It's a shitty test.  A crap test.  It doesn't evaluate anything; all it does it award points based on somebody's ability to figure out the arcana of a badly-designed test.

      That's one more thing to add to my long list of small problems. --my son, age 10

      by concernedamerican on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 08:49:07 PM PDT

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      •  and flat out wrong (1+ / 0-)
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        look at question 1039 on page 16:

        which statement supports the idea he is committed to succeeding?

        Their answer is "They crossed 500 miles in a month" instead of "they had to be ready to sail, even in the middle of the night".

        Talk about trying to guess at what the tester thinks is the "right" answer. is America's Blog of Record

        by WI Deadhead on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 06:22:07 PM PDT

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    •  That's my issue with all of this... (1+ / 0-)
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      Common Core STANDARDS don't have to be a big problem... it's the TESTS that are troublesome.

      Life does not hand you questions with four possible answers already laid out to choose from.  Real life and work are full of open-ended problems...

      Our country can survive war, disease, and poverty... what it cannot do without is justice.

      by mommyof3 on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 06:05:01 AM PDT

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      •  Wrong. The common core standard is the problem (0+ / 0-)

        because it allows these kinds of crappy tests thus it is a poor standard.  After all, if the standard allows such a crappy implementation then how can it not be the standard's fault?

        You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

        by Throw The Bums Out on Sat Sep 07, 2013 at 08:50:04 AM PDT

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