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  •  Samantha, there are demographics (12+ / 0-)
    And Israel’s security is threatened by instability in the region and its security is enhanced when those who would do it harm know that the United States stands behind its word. That’s why we’ve seen Israel’s supporters in the United States come out in support of the President’s proposed course of action.
    and then there are the demographics of this rural Republican leaning district currently held by Democrat, Tim Walz:

    From local news tonight:

    ST. PETER, Minn. - The line that started in the produce department ran all the way past the deli.

    Congressman Tim Walz stood in the St. Peter Food Coop Friday seeking opinions on Syria. And did he get them.

    "What I want to say to President Obama is you are not the man I voted for twice," said Katheryn Christenson to the Democratic congressman.

    Vietnam veteran Charlie Dempewolf suggested to Walz the results of a bombing would be used to further tarnish America. "The very first picture that's going to go worldwide is some dead kid laying on the street."

    A count by the congressman's staff had 150 people standing in line. All were given their say and not one of them favored the U.S. bombing of Syria.

    "I'll tell you in this county I wouldn't have thought you could get unanimous opinion that today is Friday," said Walz, a military veteran.

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    •  Seems as if a disproportionate large contingent (8+ / 0-)

      of war supporters are . . . right here on Daily Kos.

      Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

      by corvo on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 05:04:05 PM PDT

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      •  strange isn't it (6+ / 0-)

        I don't get it. I guess if you think bombing will actually have some sort of positive impact (which I find hard to fathom), then I guess you would have some sort of rationale to support it. But that is a big flipping "if".

        Power to the Peaceful!

        by misterwade on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 05:10:29 PM PDT

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        •  I don't get it either. (7+ / 0-)

          I can't imagine anyone inside the Beltway is foolish enough to think that a couple of days' worth of Tomahawks accomplishes anything except death and mayhem.  It doesn't dissuade Assad from anything; it doesn't assist those phantom "good guys" among the rebels; it doesn't even send a message.

          The scary thing is . . . perhaps they aren't that foolish, and they genuinely expect to drag us into a prolonged hot conflict, with not only a highly uncertain outcome (except for the contractors!), but a highly uncertain number of state-level players.

          Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

          by corvo on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 05:21:03 PM PDT

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      •  Disproportionate to what? (1+ / 0-)
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        I think we're in the minority.  It's just that the majority resents that we're here at all.

        You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

        by Rich in PA on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 06:18:08 PM PDT

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        •  If there were a sensible plan to do what Obama (2+ / 0-)
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          proposes and the UN or at least it members supported that plan and wanted to participate in it, and  the plan included removing Assad from power, probably most of us would support it.

          But the plan now is to leave the gas intact for anyone who can get their hands on to do so and use.  That does nothing in the long run to protect the Syrian children.  

          Assad and his army would still be in power.  That does nothing to protect Syrian children.

          Russia can replace any weapons destroyed.

          So what would really be accomplished?

          Except weapons manufacturers can make millions replacing all the missiles that got used.

          And the US will be even more deeply hated than we are now.
          There was a time 20 or more years ago when the US was the most admired and liked nation in the world.

          An entire generation of Americans, maybe two have never had that pleasure.

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