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  •  His well laid out point is (6+ / 0-)

    that by comparison to where we could be in America , we should be doing a lot better with what we have

    The working poor class is growing in America , not the middle class  


    Beer Drinkers & Hell Raisers

    by Patango on Sun Sep 08, 2013 at 04:35:02 PM PDT

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    •  no really it's not (0+ / 0-)

      A large prison population doesn't make us a banana republic especially as the majority of it comes from drug laws that yes are stupid but also the law of the land that should over the next decade at most go away..

      A large income gap while long term stupid (just who do you think is going to buy your products) and something I am firmly against again does not make us a banana republic.

      And the claim of torturing? Frankly it's nebulous at best and relies on redefining the word to an extent. Not to mention most of what the article asserts is no longer allowed and for good reason.

      And 'unchecked police corruption'? Seriously? Go read a history book on the police please because in general corruption has gone done not up as has the so called 'police state'. You now today have more rights when dealing with the police then you ever have. Not to mention gone are the not so recent days of beatings and threats as an interrogation 'method'. Is the system perfect? No there are still some bad apples and still some people that some how manage to get and hold a badge that never should but the argument made is hyperbolistic.

      I can keep going but let's just leave it there.

      Does America have problems? Oh hell yes and the suggestions at the end are in general good ones but the logic leading to them is flawed and frankly a meme this diarist and a few others have been beating at least recently if not longer.

      The United States of America isn't a banana republic and it wastes time and credibility to call it such.

      •  Write a diary telling us how great it is here. (5+ / 0-)
        •  and now you strawman (0+ / 0-)

          which is your seemingly favourite technique.

          Tell me why is it that when I show that the US isn't the shithole you seem to think it is you go to the other extreme?

          •  That's hardly a "strawman" (10+ / 0-)

            You bring nothing but stock denial and complaining.

            You're apparently bothered by the assertion this country is swirling down the toilet for the vast majority of us and want to simply deny it. Plenty of others see it as well ergo, you must be smarter than most.

            Write your own post about it.

            Clearly I think you;re filled with hot gas and find no value in the electrons you waste howling about it. I'm just enjoying a good badgering before I go to bed.

            If it is SO damned important to you, don't leave your brilliant observations languishing in my errant shadow.

            Daily Kos is adrift in error. Shine the way for others, O Enlightened One.

      •  Again duhban (0+ / 0-)

        the diarist was not comparing us to The Dominican Republic , he is comparing us to when America had a strong and growing working class , and to what we all thought America would been when we were growing up in the 60's and 70's

        We have 10,000 times the wealth of any banana republic , yet just look at student debt , and how 90% of the population is one illness away from losing everything they worked for , we can certainly do better than laying down and being fodder for the wall st romney party , can you imagine what 8 years of that would do to America?  

        Beer Drinkers & Hell Raisers

        by Patango on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 08:07:11 PM PDT

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