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  •  Actually, no... (6+ / 0-)

    While we're being this fussy, it's worth mentioning that the Guardian said "or face attack," not "will be attacked."

    So even if we grant Kerry all that finesse with logical conditionals, "face an attack" is an accurate description of the surrounding facts.

    When we say someone faces X number of years in prison, we're holding that as a prospect. There is indeed the prospect of Syria being attacked.

    Before we point fingers at President Obama, we ought to point them at ourselves.

    by Sucker Politics on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 05:59:57 AM PDT

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    •  Yes, there is a prospect but the clear implication (0+ / 0-)

      in the Guardian's headline and story is that Kerry said face attack.

      Here is the Guardian's headline:

      John Kerry gives Syria week to hand over chemical weapons or face attack
      .

      Here is Reuters:

      Kerry: Syrian surrender of chemical arms could stop U.S. attack
      Which one is more accurate as  to what was said?

      You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

      by sewaneepat on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 06:57:41 AM PDT

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      •  Probably Reuters; (0+ / 0-)

        Syria could surrender its CWs and we might still attack them anyway.

        "Could stop," after all, not "will stop."

        Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

        by corvo on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 07:02:16 AM PDT

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      •  Right because (0+ / 0-)

        it's the one week timeframe that's the meat of the quote to me.

        Makes the US sound like the Black Knight from Monty Python's Holy Grail movie.  Come back and we'll bite your legs off!

      •  That's a fair point (1+ / 0-)
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        Although Kerry is implicitly saying "or face attack" (not implicitly saying "or will be attacked," as the other comments note), I'll concede the headline does make him seem a little more bellicose (as funny as that possibility may be at this point).  

        Before we point fingers at President Obama, we ought to point them at ourselves.

        by Sucker Politics on Mon Sep 09, 2013 at 07:29:15 AM PDT

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