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  •  Not to worry (7+ / 0-)

    The bang bang boys originally went 'hunting' for 5 state reps but could only muster 'tags' for 2. Then they changed the rules because they knew that they couldn't win a fair fight. So in the end, all they did was shoot the messengers; public opinion remains unchanged and the law still stands.... and there is plenty of outrage in the rest of CO about the recalls. The backlash will be huge.

    •  ^^^THIS^^^ (0+ / 0-)

      Let the gun nuts against any sensible regulations try to chill  the majority who want reform with their chicken little bs about how we shouldn't pursue it, because Dems might lose.  Meanwhile, Dems still control the state legislature and governorship, and the statewide election and the issues involved next year are a whole different matter.  

    •  Ummm, "they" didn't change the rules... (5+ / 0-)

          Democrats were and still are in charge of the legislature and Governor's office. There was a legal dispute, and the court ended up deciding that, under the requirements of the Colorado constitution, the mail-in system couldn't be applied fairly under the special circumstances of this election. That means our side lost in court. That's not "they changed the rules." And I shouldn't have to point out that, although mail-in ballots are popular in Colorado and convenient, most states can't use them, and the Republicans had to actually go to the polls, too.

      public opinion remains unchanged
          And the PPP poll indicated that public opinion in Giron's district was accurately reflected at the polls. A lot of it depends on how the questions are asked, which was why PPP was so uncertain about the results of their polling and chose not to release it initially. If you ask about the specific laws individually, they get support in Colorado. If you ask about "gun control" generally, you get a strongly negative response. It's quite possible that if Giron and Morse had emphasized that they supported those particular laws, and only those laws, instead of trying to avoid the issue, they might have done better.

      -7.25, -6.26

      We are men of action; lies do not become us.

      by ER Doc on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 11:10:46 AM PDT

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      •  Who (2+ / 0-)
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        FogCityJohn, coquiero

        originated the 'legal dispute'? And how is the court's decision not a rule change? Regardless, I think the result of this trumped up election is nothing but a reminder to the rest of us here in CO not to be satisfied with our accomplishments so far.

        •  The lawsuit was brought by the Libertarian Party (3+ / 0-)

          (which I'm sure you already know.) They wanted to get their own candidate on the ballot. And the suit turned on the requirements set up in the Colorado Constitution regarding the timing of candidate petitions in recall elections, which conflicted with the law the Legislature passed mandating the use of mail-in ballots. The new law was a "rule change." Since it conflicted with the Constitution, the court forced a return to the old rules.

          -7.25, -6.26

          We are men of action; lies do not become us.

          by ER Doc on Fri Sep 13, 2013 at 01:24:18 PM PDT

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