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  •  Obamacare is a terrible policy (0+ / 0-)

    And now would be a great time for Obama to address the nation and explain to Americans why, in words the most teabrained troglodyte could understand.

    I recently looked up my plan options under the Affordable Care Act exchange in California. The monthly premiums are still very high.
    What makes it (just barely) affordable is the fact that 75% of what we pay will come back to us at tax refund time.

    In other words, I am paying a quarter of the premium and the Federal Government is paying three quarters of the premium of which a private, for-profit health insurance company is raking in the entire 100%.

    Conservatives should be against the Affordable Care Act, for that reason, not because they want poor people to drop dead.

    But of course, Republicans are the ones that made sure the bill was written that way or it never would have made it this  far. Because they represent corporate interests, not the American people. I know- duh. But it obviously needs to be said, and our President needs to be saying it. Now.

    Here's the thing; I know I will still pay more into health insurance premiums than I will ever get back. And probably not just 25% more, either.

    So... suppose I was paying -zero- a month if I qualified for subsidized coverage, with similar deductibles and copays, and the government was paying the hospital directly for the real cost of their services (not the marked-way-up-for-insurance-companies rate.)
    Would the government be spending fewer tax dollars doing that than it would spend forking over 75% of my premiums every month to the people responsible for making healthcare unaffordable in the first place? I think yes, it absolutely would. And shouldn't that be what matters to the Tea Party?

    •  The subsidies don't come back at tax time - they (1+ / 0-)
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      are paid up front.

      "Don't Bet Against Us" - President Barack Obama

      by MRA NY on Fri Sep 20, 2013 at 10:27:09 AM PDT

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      •  CoveredCA is misleading, calling it a "tax credit" (1+ / 0-)
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        No wonder so many people are confused. If the credit comes out immediately, that is better for you and me, but it is still ultimately coming from the same place.

        But my main point was that this is a subsidy to the health insurance companies, not to the taxpayers.  And it costs more tax dollars to do that than a public health plan would. But somehow the Republicans, supposedly Taxed Enough Already, don't even care. All the Republican leaders care about is keeping a Democrat from getting anything worthwhile done, and all the Republican followers care about is preventing the poor from receiving any government assistance whatsoever.

        And these facts should be blaring out of every media-hole just as loudly as the FUD and astroturf and hyperbole from the right, but it's not.

        •  yes, i accept your point - especially since i have (0+ / 0-)

          no idea what the $ amounts are.  on the other hand, an offset is all the money individuals aren't paying out of their own pockets for premiums, copays, ignored medical conditions, er visits, etc. -  which probably comes to a sizeable sum.  

          This money will help them put food on the table, keep the car going, pay bills, etc.

           In other words, quite a stimulus which should lighten the burden on various safety net programs.  

          And that is before considering the reduction in lost work days and the jobs that are expected in the healthcare and related industries.

          "Don't Bet Against Us" - President Barack Obama

          by MRA NY on Sat Sep 21, 2013 at 10:59:49 AM PDT

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