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  •  Corporate leaders now must consider (50+ / 0-)

    whether the tax exemptions, shelters, subsidies, etc. that Citizens United let them invest in was really worth it rather than doing the right thing versus nickel and diming the US.

    If the credit rating is downgraded and the economy is stalled, or even worse, perhaps they'll realize that when money doesn't trickle down, it can't be spent by innovators who ultimately spur our economy.

    For those CEO's, are you now seeing what your monies bought?  I am sure that when you are hiring for your own organization, you are a bit more scrupulous.  How would hiring racist, bigotted employees work our for you?  Would you actually hire Jim DeMint to lead your strategy?  Really?

    BTW ... The GOP's new leader, Ted Cruz, gave another important speech recently about his admiration for a racist, bigot named "Jesse Helms", tauting that we need a hundred more of him in the Senate.  Apparently, he can't even do basic math as such a proposal would mean no room for himself or any other current "leader".  He proudly announced his admiration for that most racist senator of his time by informing the rabble that he sent Jesse Helms $10 as a boy in support of his "cause".

    You should also realize that the Republicans actually do live in a bubble, which includes their own vernacular.  I tried to watch 30 minutes of Fox "news" yesterday.  Oh, yes, Obama is trying to come take people's guns away and there's a war, not on Christmas, but some other bs.  Does anyone really lie awake at night and worry that the government wants to take away their guns?  Who are these people who have had their guns taken away?

    Thankfully, I live in a country where Americans have proven their ability to see through baloney, work hard to move forward and put in controls to eliminate future mistakes.

    •  It never did trickle down, Jules. (18+ / 0-)

      All that money the Rs give to those corporate types is not required to and therefore never does turn into jobs for us. YOu notice in the current glorious profits period just passed, what we heard was that there was no job formation despite those profits because the alleged job creators were nervous about what was happening and wouldn't go forward until they were in their own terms reassured. I wonder what trickle down would have been like if the goodies were returnable to the gummint if the jobs which were supposed to appear at the end of the process were a requirement, not a fanciful turn of propagandistic phrase only. I know a state or two which tried it, and jobs appeared at least for awhile, although the language had to be tightened because companies laid off from division A while getting job creation sweets by reason of division B, rather than being a total increase. .

    •  the foxtards (21+ / 1-)

      there are a couple of these that I can't seem to shake from my facebook feed (via a high school class link).

      They're scared - fear detracts from intelligent decision making. Fox news et. al try to keep their audience scared because that keeps them addicted (and stupid).

      They're delusional - reality barely intrudes (one is excited that the "feast of trumpets" is next week - which means it is time for the rapture).  

      They're certain in their beliefs - evidence not withstanding they are RIGHT and you are WRONG (never mind that the "great preacher" they've given all their money to has been predicting the end of the world due to that antichrist Obama - every two weeks for the last five years, sooner or later he'll be correct). It is impossible to argue with them because their certainty trumps any rational argument.

      They're victims.  They tend to think they are victims due to a "war on Christians" or reverse discrimination or whatever.  Right, they're victims all right - just victims of the corporate manipulation that keeps them scared, happy and stupid.  

      Did I mention they're scared - it bears repeating.

      •  And what will he/she say when this doesn't happen? (1+ / 0-)
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        (one is excited that the "feast of trumpets" is next week - which means it is time for the rapture).
        •  Reminds me of the bumper sticker (11+ / 0-)
          In the event of The Rapture,
          can I have your car?

          I am become Man, the destroyer of worlds

          by tle on Sun Sep 29, 2013 at 01:52:56 PM PDT

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        •  anger and continued faith (2+ / 0-)
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          She was really upset when Obama didn't bomb the bejezus out of Syria and start WW3.  But then it was on to the next possible date. There is no level of mistaken prophecy that can shake the granite of her faith.

          I figure that we'll (as a nation) be paying to support her in her old age - via some form of welfare - because I'm sure she hasn't saved anything even though she is pretty well off.

          If the "rapture" occurs - which is rather unlikely - I suspect it will be those of us who used our gifts to help people who will be taken.  Even if the closest we come to being faithful is to wear the sacred pasta strainer.

        •  They don't say anything. They just keep believing. (2+ / 0-)
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          I first realized that adults were full of crap as a 9 year-old at my grandma's house, where I found Hal Lindsey's "Late Great Planet Earth."  In it, he talked about how the Rapture was going to happen in 1992, preceded by a nuclear war in around 1988.  

          In 1988 or so, he released his new, updated version of the same book, in which the nuke was was gonna happen, for sure, by 1992 and the Rapture by 1996.  In 1992... you get the idea.  

          People still buy this stupid idiot's books.  People still believe in the Rapture (even though it isn't a Biblical idea), they still believe in all the other nonsense their preachers spew, and they believe that they are going to heaven for not thinking for themselves.  

          I gave up trying to reach these people a long time ago.  The best we can do is live with them and try to keep them away from sharp objects as much as possible.  

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          by Hatrax on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 04:08:26 AM PDT

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      •  Well.... (1+ / 0-)
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        They're victims.  They tend to think they are victims due to a "war on Christians" or reverse discrimination or whatever.  Right, they're victims all right - just victims of the corporate manipulation that keeps them scared, happy and stupid.  
        Too bad there isn't a war on 'stupid'.
        But you can't cure stupid, you can teach and teach and teach and show by example, but if the person is just so full of hate, bigotry, racism, ignorance, and fear, no amount of teaching is gonna help.
        Thankfully, the majority of younger folks have no patience for the stupidity and fear that forces people to act against their own best interests.

        I think, therefore I am........................... Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose....AKA Engine Nighthawk - don't even ask!

        by Lilyvt on Sun Sep 29, 2013 at 05:57:06 PM PDT

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      •  feast of trumpets? (1+ / 0-)
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        Rosh Hashanah is not next week, it's already over

        Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
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        by TrueBlueMajority on Sun Sep 29, 2013 at 07:40:37 PM PDT

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      •  Unacceptable term. (4+ / 0-)

        "Foxtard" is no less offensive than "libtard," both of them coming from "retard," which is not something a person with a shred of decency should be calling anyone else.

        "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is the first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk. Every state is totalitarian at heart; there are no ends to the cruelty it will go to to protect itself." -- Ian McDonald

        by Geenius at Wrok on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 05:06:49 AM PDT

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        •  Ironically (0+ / 0-)

          . . . if not for your use of that term, I'd have rec'd your comment rather than HR'd it.

          "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is the first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk. Every state is totalitarian at heart; there are no ends to the cruelty it will go to to protect itself." -- Ian McDonald

          by Geenius at Wrok on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 05:07:43 AM PDT

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      •  I agree, to some extent. But I also remember, 1994 (1+ / 0-)
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        when I was secretary to an extremely progressive software company that was bringing online things like relating of state database records of motor vehicles to voter rolls, etc. So long ago that it was before Windows, and even though the people worked with were aware they were ten years away from "Y2K" they weren't worried about it because everyone was still assuming, as they did in the beginning, that the infrastructure would change before the century did.
             No one I knew in regular life was worried about a security state back then. But the church people knew, and they had a book that described how that creepy guy you didn't want to date could now call a friend who had access to your motor vehicle records and give him your plate number and he could come stalk you. Previous to the computer databeast, that guy would have had to work a lot harder to trace you.
             So, whether or not you believe we are Racing Towards the Mark of the Beast, it's still only fair to give credit where credit is due. The Christians called it first as far as "computers, your money, and the end of the world".
             I walk the line between both worlds, encouraging the Christians that being prepared is good for any emergency, so do it, but don't live in fear- that's not love, and the book says "God is Love".
             But I also encourage the not-church-world to listen to the wisdom of the poetry of the stories these people are telling, because we live in a country delineated by their rhythms and rhymes.
             Or do we plan to stop referring to this as [the year of Our Lord] Two thousand thirteen this year?
             

        We are all pupils in the eyes of God.

        by nuclear winter solstice on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 06:04:47 AM PDT

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    •  Which country is that? (6+ / 0-)
      Thankfully, I live in a country where Americans have proven their ability to see through baloney, work hard to move forward and put in controls to eliminate future mistakes.
      Gee, are they giving visas to Americans to visit the mythical land where you live? I'd love to live there, too.
    •  This problem (0+ / 0-)

      is a direct consequence of Citizen's United. The GOP are committing political suicide because a handful of donors are hellbent on pulling out all the stops in their pathetic and childish attempts to deny Obama a positive legacy. More to the point it is the easing of political contribution limitations combined with the continued ability of donors to conceal the origin of their donations that is the problem. We are no closer to getting the secret money out of politics than we ever were, and the result is political actors who work for a group of about 5 people while they allow their actual constituencies to languish.

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