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  •  We get caught up in the hubbub, and chase after (9+ / 0-)

    every passing squirrel. I'd prefer if we just posted our diaries, and then discussed them leisurely, like waves rippling back and forth across a pond, over several days. The comments do stay open for nine days after a diary posts.

    It's fun to jump right into the conversation, so that you get to interact with more guests in the diary. But I always check my diaries multiple times daily, for a few days after they appear. So if you'd rather chew on them before replying, you're more than welcome to.

    Books do stretch and furnish our mind, and SF/Fantasy books do this more than most, because invention is the coin of their realm. The people who write SF/Fantasy do so because they enjoy the mindbending business.

    I agree with you, the books on the poll all crystallized ideas and themes that noone had put into words yet. Our language and imaginations are larger, in the wake of these great explorers. Though, if they're crystallizing ideas, I guess they're really chemists.

    "Every man has a right to utter what he thinks truth" Samuel Johnson

    by Brecht on Sun Sep 29, 2013 at 08:18:28 PM PDT

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    •  The problem is that life interferes (8+ / 0-)

      and I go off to do other things while the back of my mind slowly thinks about things. I'm a slow thinker, better at listening than sharing. I am still chewing on reality and myth from your other diary.

      In a way that applies here as well ... the only reason that the world of the book seems real is because there is an element of myth about the world that it creates. If it is all "realness" then it presents only a picture, but you need the myth to present the universal truth so that the reader connects even several centuries later, as in Gulliver's Travels. Although the details create a reality, it only matters because it transcends the details to present a universal truth, a myth that we can understand and incorporate. If there is not "aha moment" that opens a wider world then no matter how many people praise it, it is not a good book for the reader.

      "I want to live in a world where George Zimmerman offered Trayvon Martin a ride home to get him out of the rain that night." Greg Martin, Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Central Florida

      by CorinaR on Sun Sep 29, 2013 at 08:34:28 PM PDT

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      •  Myth = eternal; Realism = everyday; SF = tomorrow (5+ / 0-)

        The shock of the greatest SF/Fantasy books is, they invent new myths. They tell us stories that seem universally true, but which we'd never heard before.

        "Every man has a right to utter what he thinks truth" Samuel Johnson

        by Brecht on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 01:11:50 AM PDT

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        •  Why I love fantasy: (5+ / 0-)

          myth is eternal. And the greatest fantasy writers mine the greatest myths and bring them to us in slightly altered forms, which we can then cultivate.

          If you know what I mean...?

          Irony takes a worse beating from Republicans than Wile E. Coyote does from Acme. --Tara the Antisocial Social Worker

          by Youffraita on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 01:15:23 AM PDT

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