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  •  His early books, back when he was actually... (15+ / 0-)

    writing them and still cared, were actually very good.

    I remember waking up one day in college and started Red Storm Rising and pretty much did nothing but read that book cover to cover till 4am (even reading at the school caf when I ate lol)

    Can't name many books that have pulled me in so completely.

    Sadly for the last decade he just hawked his name to other writers leaving his legacy far more shallow than it should be.

    R.I.P. Mr Clancy!

    The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function [Albert A. Bartlett]

    by fToRrEeEsSt on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 09:34:53 AM PDT

    •  Some of them were. "Patriot Games" was shit. (5+ / 0-)

      Much worse than the movie they made with the same name...which was still nothing to write home about.

      For many years I have suspected that PG was in fact based heavily on a clumsy pre-H4RO attempt at a novel that Clancy either shopped around with no success or got fed up with & never finished. My conjecture is that pos-H4RO he signed a contract for multiple novels, came up short on inspiration, remembered the cobwebbed box of typescript in the attic, did a hasty edit/update & sent it in. At least the flick was better.

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      by Uncle Cosmo on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 03:13:35 PM PDT

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      •  That's actually factual. (3+ / 0-)

        It's a matter of published fact that PG was his first Jack Ryan novel that he pulled out of the drawer to get more product to market after the success of H4RO.  

        (That sound you are hearing is a paradigm being shifted at Warp Factor Infinity using no clutch.)

        by homogenius on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 05:01:32 PM PDT

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        •  Well, sunny beaches, whodathunkit? (4+ / 0-)

          First I've heard in the way of confirmation. Gotta link?

          Srsly, I was absolutely convinced of that right after I read the damn thing. I loved H4RO & enjoyed the hell out of RSR, but that...

          Another thing I kept running into when I was actively reading "mindcandy" is how many nicely-paced technothrillers turn totally frantic within about 50 pages of the end, rushing here & there trying to wrap up all the loose ends of the plot.

          For some reason it reminds me of a classic joke in which humans are asked to demonstrate their reproductive methods for a bunch of Martians (or, in John Brunner's novel Stand on Zanzibar, a self-aware computer named Shalmaneser). After they chosen couple has copulated, the audience ask(s) where the baby is. "Oh, you have to wait nine months for that!"

          "In that case," say(s) the observer(s), "why were you in such a hurry at the end?" < rimshot >

          But I digress...

          My best conjecture was that the author was banging up against his contractual deadline for delivery of the MS & didn't have time to do a proper job. But it might also have been some sort of contractual page limitation. Or the junior editors cutting the text down to a producible size may have had orders to start cutting at the end & work backwards... In any case I never did figure it out.

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          by Uncle Cosmo on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 05:34:20 PM PDT

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          •  I read this back in the day. (2+ / 0-)
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            Around the time of publication of PG.  I can't find a quick reference online, but that's my recollection at the time.

            (That sound you are hearing is a paradigm being shifted at Warp Factor Infinity using no clutch.)

            by homogenius on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 09:35:39 PM PDT

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